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caseyh 05-30-2012 12:18 PM

last year we had about 25+ boats run to horn island out of mississippi. we had a park ranger/ wild life and fishries come warn us for noise. he even pulled out a decibel reader. we were disterbing the birds! only one boat had a raido on. he gave us all a speech, we gave him the get the F*#k attude.

really starting to dislike theses guys they have to much power. more then any other agentcy. they can stop you while running then can board you boat with out reason at all.

low_psi 05-30-2012 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by caseyh (Post 3698579)
last year we had about 25+ boats run to horn island out of mississippi. we had a park ranger/ wild life and fishries come warn us for noise. he even pulled out a decibel reader. we were disterbing the birds! only one boat had a raido on. he gave us all a speech, we gave him the get the F*#k attude.

really starting to dislike theses guys they have to much power. more then any other agentcy. they can stop you while running then can board you boat with out reason at all.

Yup, those are the butt plugs that got us this weekend. Apparently the federal government has given the federal wildlife officer the power to stop the world from spinning if they deem necessary.......

TexomaPowerboater 05-30-2012 02:00 PM

That sucks, I'm on a corp owned lake with lots of wildlife refuge's. I've got one in my backyard. We've also got islands that are wildlife refuge's and we still have a great time. We can still beach the boats, drop anchor, party, etc. Its the egrets that do most of the damage by destroying the trees. Sure we have one island that sees a lot of trash, but nobody get harrased over it and a couple of organizations try to pick up after holidays. Seems more like a case of liberals run amok, we keep a tight noose on them down here.

Michael1 05-30-2012 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 3698563)
I have yet to see the map, as they recently aquired the property. I think they are just making $hit up as they go right now. At the "town hall" meeting they had in regard to the island, the speaker said they will enforce to water line (so I am told, I missed the meeting). Yet the agent that hassled me last weekend says if my feet are touching ground (even in the water) he will write me a ticket next time as "I have been officially warned". I have a feeling it is going to take someone getting arrested and fighting it for there to be an actual boundry set... THis whole make it up as you go is total BS!

No need to get arrested. The first thing to do is identify the agency that declared this a refuge area. Then have the agency send you the statute proclaiming and identifying the boundaries of the refuge area. You should just be able to call them up, and say "I don't want to disturb the refuge area. Please mail out the statute and boundary map." That should do the trick.

Also just being a refuge area does not necessarily mean you can't enter the area. There may just be restrictions on what you can do. That's why you need the actual statute.

Michael

gofastlvr 05-30-2012 03:19 PM

Here in TN the TWRA (Tn Wildlife Resource Agency) has more power than a St Trooper. They can stop you for no reason, search you, your vehicle and your vessel with no reason, impound it for any suspicion and put you in cuffs for resisting. They randomly stop boats all day for "safety checks" and bust out the breathalizer. On top of that they can search your truck, house, or any other possession you have if there is a suspicion of you having any fish or wildlife or meat in the freezer etc...

A few years ago we were canoeing and they build a blind on the side of the river to hide and watch people as they came by the stopped them and popped a bunch of people for fishing and checked all the catch and wrote tickets for open container on a dang canoe trip! WTH else are you gonna do on a canoe trip?

Indy 05-30-2012 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3698654)
Sure we have one island that sees a lot of trash, but nobody get harrased over it and a couple of organizations try to pick up after holidays. Seems more like a case of liberals run amok, we keep a tight noose on them down here.

So if you like to boat in clean waters or pull up to an island that isn't full of beer cans, cigarette butts, condoms, puke, piss, and other general discarded human debris you're a liberal? I'm not a liberal but I enjoy the water and all that it offers and find it pathetic if some "conservative" decides his/her trash must be shared by all.

Sometimes we're our own worst enemy.

PhantomChaos 05-30-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by indy (Post 3698703)
so if you like to boat in clean waters or pull up to an island that isn't full of beer cans, cigarette butts, condoms, puke, piss, and other general discarded human debris you're a liberal? I'm not a liberal but i enjoy the water and all that it offers and find it pathetic if some "conservative" decides his/her trash must be shared by all.

Sometimes we're our own worst enemy.

+100

Hellbent 05-30-2012 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3698703)
Sometimes we're our own worst enemy.

You're NOT a liberal?? LOL

Indy 05-31-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Hellbent (Post 3699080)
You're NOT a liberal?? LOL

Brilliant post :rolleyes:

BBCLiberator 05-31-2012 11:58 AM

So maybe I missed it, but where can you go get an actual zoning map? Anyone know?


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