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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
(Post 3700386)
I presume this area already has fines in place for littering. Just enforce the littering laws that have been on the books for decades, don't close down a whole beach on account of a few idiots.
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
(Post 3700386)
You going to close down the roadways for littering too? |
And how is it 8 posts in I'm somehow involved in a political discussion about a haunted island...wait that's not right at all ;)
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god knows its easier to hold law abiding citizens under excessive laws then to perform real law enforcement. the majority of people cited, results from questioning overbearing enforcement. just read article again, civilians and journalists arrested then released for video taping cops on duty.
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Originally Posted by BBCLiberator
(Post 3699407)
So maybe I missed it, but where can you go get an actual zoning map? Anyone know?
If you think you are going to get hassled or have been hassled for being in a area that is not part of the refuge area, I would call the Sargeant of the enforcing agency, and ask for clarification. Tell the sargeant you have a copy of the statute, and if you were told to leave, you would like to know why. I would also get the badge number and name of the officer who told you to leave. Have the telephone number of the Sargeant with you on the water. I would leave, and not argue with the officer, but immediately call the Sargeant after leaving. Once it is cleared up, ask that the officer be informed by radio, get the Sargeant's name, and then return to the area. If the officer comes back, say you just got off the phone with Sargeant So-and-So, and he approved you to come back. The key is to appear cooperative and business like the entire time. Don't argue, raise your voice, etc. Otherwise, they think they are dealing with an idiot. Smart people win this game. Michael |
Look like the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is the agency.
Detroit River International Wildlife Refuge I didn't see anything on their website about Sugar Island or the boundaries/land use restrictions for the island. You would have to contact them. Get any regulations in writing. Michael |
Originally Posted by todayone
(Post 3700729)
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Originally Posted by low_psi
(Post 3696662)
Ok, so recently the National Wildlife refuge purchased a small island a lot of us locals used during the summer as a place to picnic, throw horse shoes, etc. Anyway they have now designated it as a wildlife refuge and have posted signs on the island that state, unauthorized access is prohibited. So given this how far into the water can they actually enforce this? I was anchored off a few yards from the island today in about waist deep water and was told by a federal agent that I was trespassing and that he can enforce this to the middle part of the shipping channel. Naturally I got a bit of an attitude with him, as to say you can enforce a no trespass hundreds of yards away all the way into a shipping channel, just sounds ridiculous..... So my question for all of you legal types, what is the actual distance they can enforce a no trespass on a federally owned island in the Detroit River? Can they enforce all the way out to the shipping channel or to the water line? Also where can I find this in writing? While I told the officer I thought he was full of $hit, I don't know the full extent of this law so to argue it with him wouldn't be smart either..... Any info you guys can lend would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
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Originally Posted by showtime83
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