Originally Posted by mrquad1 (Post 3716212)

articles like these is what gives politicians and the wp great ammo to attack our freedoms,jmho:stooges:

Originally Posted by Philm (Post 3716682)

I still doubt that they were actually going 190mph. We all know that the boat is more than capable of doing it, i just doubt that they were.

Obviously they were going too fast for the conditions present, but let's be serious here, aint no way that boat is going to stay water side down at that speed, while spinning three times, and with no one even getting so much as a scratch.

If someone who was in the boat gets on here and says "yes, we were going 191mph when we spun three times" then i will believe it, but I sure as hell aint believing a bunch of spectators. Most of them probably just heard that the boat can run over 190mph so they assumed that it was going that fast.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3716951)

has the alleged spin out been confirmed,or is speculation running rampit?i find it hard to beleive that any boat running 190 mph could spin 3 times and not crash.i cannot beleive anyone with a boat of that caliber would be going in a turn at 190 mph.i don,t know the owner of my-way,but im sure he respects the speed the boat is capable of doing. 190 mph boats are few&far between,and my guess is the owner of the boat didn,t start out in a 190 mph boat.i would think that if the incident occured,a lot of people would have seen it happen.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3716951)

has the alleged spin out been confirmed,or is speculation running rampit?i find it hard to beleive that any boat running 190 mph could spin 3 times and not crash.i cannot beleive anyone with a boat of that caliber would be going in a turn at 190 mph.i don,t know the owner of my-way,but im sure he respects the speed the boat is capable of doing. 190 mph boats are few&far between,and my guess is the owner of the boat didn,t start out in a 190 mph boat.i would think that if the incident occured,a lot of people would have seen it happen.

Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3716962)

The incident happening is not in question - the speed is.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3716978)

i have read this thread several times,but cant seem to find valid conformation about the spin out,i was hopeing that someone who saw it might say so on this thread,as im sure if it happened,someone had to whitness it.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3716996)

Here

http://www.abay.com/alexandriabaynynews2452.htm

Originally Posted by Chuck (Post 3717238)

With the exception of the last two years I have run the A-Bay Poker Run since 2003, and the 1000 Island Poker Run. I have never seen Bill run in an unsafe manner. Bill lives on the river and I am sure he gives the proper respect to his neighbors, tourists, and anyone else running on the river. Let's not forget that the same model boat was involved in a low speed rollover in Key West two years ago. If the speeds were ANYWHERE near the speeds being ASSUMED I am sure the results would have been catastrophic. Until we know some hard facts lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Just my .02.

Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 3716454)

There are a lot of go fast boat owners now that have more than one boat. Be it a CC, pontoon, ski boat, whatever. I feel pretty confident in saying that when they're out there with their family, the last thing they would think is cool, is a boat doing a wide, sweeping turn near them at 190 mph.

Just like having a corvette, or any serious car, takes a mature person to understand safe and common sense, it's the same way on the water. Unfortunately, the accidents take place every single year. Mostly drunks, but some just funnin around. It's already ruined night boating, on many rivers people are too scared to go out, and on many lakes people from pontoons and up have to deal with speed limits because of the crazies.

Matt is right. I continue to be amazed that anyone can see anything at those speeds, much less a PWC or kayak or whatever. Three miles a second. I know for certain my eyes aren't that good, I wonder if anyone's really are. There's a reason drag races and racing in general isn't allowed on the roadways. Nobody else would stand a chance.

Not an indictment of performance boating. Just some boaters, many of whom have ruined boating in general in many areas. The first time you hit anything will be your last. At those speeds, it probably would be the very last thing you do.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3717262)

it seems strange that someone claims to have a video of a 190 mph spinout,but it is no where to be found,and not 1 person has said they saw it happen.it,s rumors like this that keep insurance premiums rising,until i see some factuial information,i will concider this nothing more than a rumor.

Originally Posted by HEDGEHOGER (Post 3716534)

OK my dad and I were in last place ( if there were places) and we saw bill in eel bay for people who know the area there's no way he was going 190 there!!!! bill loves speed but he's not an idiot! !!! And at the evening banquet there was nothing said about any close calls

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3717325)

i am suprised that mr trulio would do a commentary without facts to back it up,if he has facts on this,i would think he would post them,if not,he helped to fuel the rumor fire.matt,do you know more on this than what you have already posted?

Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3717336)

I based my commentary on reports from two highly reliable sources who requested that they remain unnamed—and I will honor those requests. I certainly didn't just pull it out of an Internet thread.

Nothing they reported to me has been refuted in a single post in this thread. Simply saying, "I don't believe it" or "I call B.S." or "I don't think that's possible" does not qualify as refutation. That's just disagreement.

I stand by my commentary.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719375)

Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3719493)

it looked like the cruiser was going 3 times faster than my way,the video looks fake to me,am i the only one who thinks its a altered video?

Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 3719497)

Are you serious? Maybe put out by the same people who faked the moon landing? Give it up.

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3719521)

ya,you are right,are you sure about the speed,i heard he wes going 250 mph,and the boat went end over end 5 times,some guy saw it happen.nobody ever altered a video,never,it cant be done:lolhit:

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3719493)

the video looks fake to me,am i the only one who thinks its a altered video?

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719671)

Yeah....it sure does!!! I shot this in my pool with RC boats, then added the shoreline from video clips of LOTO, and sound effects using clips from JBS running in Hasvasu, my boy did the running commentary and then edited it on his iPad. :drink::drink::drink:

Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3719732)

You forgot to mention how you edited out the flying saucer that caused this incident. And they had the nerve to blame a big boat "floating quickly" into his line of travel.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719671)

Yeah....it sure does!!! I shot this in my pool with RC boats, then added the shoreline from video clips of LOTO, and sound effects using clips from JBS running in Hasvasu, my boy did the running commentary and then edited it on his iPad. :drink::drink::drink:

Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3719968)

where did you get the video from?