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Michael1 07-10-2012 02:02 AM

That's a nice looking boat. The interior and cabin look brand new, I suppose as a result of the $8K they invested.

Great project! Keep us posted.

Michael

glassdave 07-10-2012 08:35 AM

cool, looks like ya got Merc Mags there. Keep in mind that should be a 365 with forged internals and sqr port heads when looking for a mate and that engines takes to mild mods very well. I would suspect you should be able to find/build a twin pretty easy. Cool boat and great thread here.

inthetundra 07-10-2012 08:00 PM

Looks like it is going to polish up good. Just got started and the color is coming back nice! A couple weeks at this and it should look great! Quite a difference compared to the untouched above the rail

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/c5e85744.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/959f1320.jpg

Dean Ferry 07-10-2012 08:06 PM

Congrats, looks like a great buy!
Dean

inthetundra 07-14-2012 10:08 AM

Looks like I found an engine, coming from a boat that was getting something bigger. If the guy can get the shipping straight, it should be here in about a week. I wasn't even planning on getting this far this season, but there is a good chance it could at least get wet for some testing if things keep going smooth.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/88eec2fe.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/97448b7c.jpg

inthetundra 07-14-2012 06:25 PM

There is progress
Before:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/0981eb73.jpg

After:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/a9fe73e2.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/35137147.jpg

inthetundra 07-15-2012 01:48 PM

I'vev been checking over the electrical, going to replace the fuse holders since a few are kind of loose. Where the heck is the switch for the bow lights? Nav lights work fine, just can't seem to figure out where the headlight switch is, probably not called healights either hahaha. What am I missing?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/ab389ade.jpg

JETTDOGG 07-15-2012 02:14 PM

YOUR LIKE THE GUY WHO WINS POWER BALL INSTEAD OF ME! YA WANTA' HATE HIM BUT YOU JUST CAN'T:angry-smiley-038:
WHAT A GREAT FIND! HOPE SHE SEES WATER SOON.

BoatShow239 07-15-2012 02:23 PM

Typically the nav lights are...
 
...your bow lights (red/green) and stern or transom light with one direction of the switch and your anchor/all around light with the other direction.

Usually the acc switch is for extra electrical ie, radio, gps/sonar, but not always!

I wonder about the paralell battery switch. Is there also a master battery switch.

Is if fair to assume the court lights are cockpit lights? I notice there seem to be three transom lights.

What is the switch to the right of the starboard tach?

Check their spelling on paralell on the dash! Anything else on it have all the right parts, but not in the right order?

PS:
OK, I looked at the earlier pictures and see your docking lights (head lights). I guess look all over for switches. Hate to say it, but you might need to trace wires back from the bow!

inthetundra 07-15-2012 02:54 PM

Yup, thats the one I am looking for, the docking lights. The court lights are the ones in the cockpit area. The nav and anchor lights work, also control the 3 on the transom. The odd ball switch is a three way. I figured the docking lights are stock on the boat so I can't imagine there not being a switch. I guess they could have been added later. Yeah, I noticed they have it spelled wrong. Maybe it will become collectable that way hahaha

FIXX 07-15-2012 02:55 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by inthetundra (Post 3729919)
Looks like I found an engine, coming from a boat that was getting something bigger. If the guy can get the shipping straight, it should be here in about a week. I wasn't even planning on getting this far this season, but there is a good chance it could at least get wet for some testing if things keep going smooth.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/88eec2fe.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/97448b7c.jpg

take your time and look for the mate to your engine and dont be cheap about it..the engine you posted looks to be out of a cruiser and may not be a mag engine..ask for better pics of the intake manifold..try to buy a engine that is in the inner states and not coastal states to avoid salt water engines...

you are wasting your time with that orbidal polisher..you need to go at the boat with a compound to get rid of the oxidation thats on the surface of the gel...do a section and put the boat outside for a couple weeks and the sun will dry out the silicone thats in the polish you are using and it will look like it did when you first cleaned it...you need to use a buffing compound like aquabuff 1000 then wash and follow with aquabuff 2000,,then you can polish it then use colonite wax to protect it...all your doing now is wasting your time..just tying to save you the extra work...

BoatShow239 07-15-2012 03:09 PM

Does the paralell...
 
...and acc switches do anything?

Do all three of the transom lights come on at one time, or can you just have the center one on?

I'll need to go back through my books, but I think by regs there is only suppose to be one transom light while underway, but I think the three can be lit when at anchor. Not sure about that.

OK, collectable!

PS:
Not sure, but I think your boat is a Webbcraft by Concorde, and Concorde is still in business.

What are the first three symbols of the serial #?

inthetundra 07-15-2012 03:17 PM

I've been using Buff Magic compound. I'll let it cook in the sun and see what happens

inthetundra 07-18-2012 05:53 AM

Maybe admin can movet this to the boating on a budget thread?

sprink58 07-18-2012 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3730492)
take your time and look for the mate to your engine and dont be cheap about it..the engine you posted looks to be out of a cruiser and may not be a mag engine..ask for better pics of the intake manifold..try to buy a engine that is in the inner states and not coastal states to avoid salt water engines...

you are wasting your time with that orbidal polisher..you need to go at the boat with a compound to get rid of the oxidation thats on the surface of the gel...do a section and put the boat outside for a couple weeks and the sun will dry out the silicone thats in the polish you are using and it will look like it did when you first cleaned it...you need to use a buffing compound like aquabuff 1000 then wash and follow with aquabuff 2000,,then you can polish it then use colonite wax to protect it...all your doing now is wasting your time..just tying to save you the extra work...

+1 on the Colonite. I kept a 40' Sea Ray in the water here and can testify that Colonite Fleet Wax will last close to a year in the salt on the water.

inthetundra 07-18-2012 10:22 AM

I already have 2 bottles of Collonite #925 on the shelf....good stuff. I used it in the past when I was in Rhode Island

Mac 07-18-2012 12:14 PM

They were called a Webbcraft Concorde, built by Webbcraft, in Collinsville, Oklahoma. Is that a 27 or a30 they made both. I had a 27 with twin 330hp 454 mercs back in 1988. They went out of business in the early 90s. Built a hell of a lot of smaller 18-24 footers in their day.

inthetundra 07-18-2012 12:32 PM

It's the 30' Concorde

Knot 4 Me 07-18-2012 12:39 PM

Subscribed! Nice find!

inthetundra 07-24-2012 08:35 PM

Still cleaning. I did manage to find a pair of the original Webbcraft emblems, not perfect but they with clean up nice. They look worse than they really are, but they are at least in one piece! An engine is in transit. All in all, there is progress! BTW...the picture of the emblems is not my boat, it's the donor boat.. Even before I started cleaning mine didn't look that bad...hahahaha
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/a3381e8b.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/98141dc3.jpg

inthetundra 07-26-2012 08:21 PM

I got an interesting email today. I had posted on Craigslist down in Oklahoma that I was looking for the emblems for the project boat. I figured since they were built down there, there might be some scrap boats laying around with parts for sale.
I got an answer today from Darren Webb. Here is part of the email:


Yes, Webbcraft was my Uncle's company, I likely built your boat. Anyway, the emblems are at the old Webbcraft shop in Collinsville, OK, I don't have them here to take pictures. But I assure you they are new, never used originals, pristine condition - there are not too many left in this condition.
I think that's pretty cool....here I am piecing this old boat together and I get an email from a guy who may have actually built the boat! I will be getting the brand new emblems for that reason alone!

Florida Floater 07-26-2012 08:39 PM

Congratulations!
 
That is every impressive!

What a wonderful resource to have while you are working on your project.

inthetundra 07-26-2012 09:38 PM

I got another email from Darren Webb. In our emails I let him know I was a Navy vet and so on, this was his reply....it just keeps getting better:


Thanks for sharing the pictures. It is great to see one of the old boats treated with respect. Let me look to see what I can find at the shop over the weekend on the middle emblem. I will email you next week, to let you know what I find.
Hey man, I have family members in the NAVY, I want to include something for you, something really cool, I have a rare gold plated circle emblem from the Webbcraft 15 year anniversary. As far as the family knows, there is only 1 other of these left, it's yours , picture attached, Enjoy.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/5efb298b.jpg

CigaretteSam 07-26-2012 09:54 PM

This is one of the coolest restoration projects ive seen! Awesome!

sprink58 07-26-2012 10:24 PM

I have read this from the first post and think this represents something that we all have....the desire to hold onto and preserve the things that tie us to great times and great achievements.

Please keep posting your progress...no matter how mundane it may seem...someone will read what you have to share and enjoy it.

Thanks for sharing this experience with all of us...we do truly enjoy it.

the deep 07-26-2012 10:39 PM

Your story is becoming almost spiritual in nature . It is refreshing to see good things happen to good people . Enjoy the ride brother and thank you for your service .

inthetundra 07-26-2012 11:00 PM

The project has definitely turned a different corner for me!

Florida Floater 07-27-2012 06:14 AM

Wonderful new Avatar!
 
Certainly one no one else has a right to use!

FINMAN 07-27-2012 10:46 AM

I was at the old factory a few months ago buying a storm shelter. They are selling safe rooms out of the plant. http://www.stormsaferoom.com/
The guy that helped me was Brad Webb. When going into the office there is webbcraft stuff everywhere.
its a pretty run down place and sad to see old hulls and molds just laying outside with trash and weeds grown up everywhere.

Fin

inthetundra 07-27-2012 08:31 PM

It may not look as fancy as what some of the other boats have, but it's in my garage and will be all cleaned up before going in. I just need to find the right thermostat housing now that I got rid of the heat exchanger. This is farther than I expected to be this year.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/62f0cd2e.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/b0647ba7.jpg

the deep 07-27-2012 08:57 PM

I have the stock thermostat housing off my HP 500 if you can use it it's yours .

inthetundra 07-27-2012 09:42 PM

This is what I need I guess to match the other engine. I think the bottom is a 87110 and I know for sure the coever has 47440 on it

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/bb31510e.jpg

the deep 07-27-2012 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by inthetundra (Post 3740660)
This is what I need I guess to match the other engine. I think the bottom is a 87110 and I know for sure the coever has 47440 on it

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/bb31510e.jpg

Yes , exact number match . Go figure , i told you it was getting spiritual .:thankyouthankyou:

inthetundra 07-27-2012 10:30 PM

Very cool gesture, I sent you a PM.
Thanks again,
Art

FIXX 07-27-2012 11:06 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by inthetundra (Post 3740626)
It may not look as fancy as what some of the other boats have, but it's in my garage and will be all cleaned up before going in. I just need to find the right thermostat housing now that I got rid of the heat exchanger. This is farther than I expected to be this year.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/62f0cd2e.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...a/b0647ba7.jpg

i hate to ruin your evening but see if a magnet sticks to the intake manifold,if it does its not a mag engine..from looking at the rust on the intake made me ask the ?.. if you are going to use it anyway your going to be making a left or right while trying to plane off..

the deep 07-27-2012 11:17 PM

Did they come with a squarebore or spreadbore intake ? Carb was changed for sure . Maybe so was the intake . We need to investigate .

FIXX 07-27-2012 11:35 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3740709)
Did they come with a squarebore or spreadbore intake ? Carb was changed for sure . Maybe so was the intake . We need to investigate .

intake has rust on it,mag intake is alunimum,also a round port intake wont work on a mag engine with square port heads,,it would have a huge vacume leak .. edelbrock carb has q-jet or holly bolt patterns..

inthetundra 07-28-2012 12:00 AM


if you are going to use it anyway your going to be making a left or right while trying to plane off..
I guess this one needs to be explained to me

I knew the carb was changed to an Edelbrock carb
The original engine intake is aluminum, this one is cast. Original engine was rated at 330hp. I was told this one was rated at 330 hp at the crank


Many new parts, the following components all have less than 300 hrs of use:
Cylinder heads done by reputable local machine shop
Performance cam & timing gear by same shop
Closed cooling pump
Rebuilt raw water pump
Fuel pump
Heat exchanger
All belts & hoses
Edelbrock carbeuretor
Engine wiring harness w/ 10 pin connector
Ignition coil, distributor cap, plug wires
Platinum plugs
Alternator
Starter
You didn't ruin my evening....things are still going to work out in the end!

inthetundra 07-28-2012 12:21 AM

If the boat floats and goes and I am happy...I can always find a matched pair over the winter to drop in!

FIXX 07-28-2012 12:38 AM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by inthetundra (Post 3740725)
If the boat floats and goes and I am happy...I can always find a matched pair over the winter to drop in!

as long aas you dont harm anyone then i guess it will work..

a mag is 365 hp and the one you bought is 330 + what ever the old owner did to it..a mag you can rev to 5k a 30 4600 rpm's,a mag has forged internals and 7/16 rods the 330 has cast internals and 3/8 rods..
hope it all works out..

goin to bed see ya!


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