First Checkmate 26 Convincor Completed
07-16-2012, 08:17 AM
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I appreciate and respect you point of view....and always will.
I had a pair of Bravo transom assemblies with rams and pumps shipped to me a few months ago and I remember the shipping weight was right at 100#'s. the drives are just a bit over 100 ea.
The beautiful part of the LSA package as prepared by Mast Marine is that you get a complete marine dressed engine that makes 600 horsepower for under 600#s...per their web site.
"600HP / Under 600 Lbs.
ALL ALUMINUM GM 6.8L LS BASED MARINE ENGINE:
High Strength Light Weight Engine Assembly
Base Block GM LS3 Aluminum Architecture
350lbs Lighter Than Iron Big Block (Average)"
The GM site has the base engine at 447 #s so I think the under 600# is dressed.
That's a bit better than 1 horsepower per LB !! a 26 Convincer with one of these would run into the 90's!!
Also remember that Checkmate created the possibility of twins with these boats by giving it an 8'-6" beam....very nice.
The LS series of engines are poised to replace the old stand by BBC that we have grown up with over the past 45 years. The Tonawanda, NY engine plant that built these ceased production a few years ago so there won't be any more base engines being built. The LS is the heir apparent in the small to medium sized powerboat arena. The after market guys are drooling at the prospect of all the new goodies they can sell us all.
Realistically...1200 horsepower would be better suited for Checkmates ZT 350. Now that would be a lot of fun.
I had a pair of Bravo transom assemblies with rams and pumps shipped to me a few months ago and I remember the shipping weight was right at 100#'s. the drives are just a bit over 100 ea.
The beautiful part of the LSA package as prepared by Mast Marine is that you get a complete marine dressed engine that makes 600 horsepower for under 600#s...per their web site.
"600HP / Under 600 Lbs.
ALL ALUMINUM GM 6.8L LS BASED MARINE ENGINE:
High Strength Light Weight Engine Assembly
Base Block GM LS3 Aluminum Architecture
350lbs Lighter Than Iron Big Block (Average)"
The GM site has the base engine at 447 #s so I think the under 600# is dressed.
That's a bit better than 1 horsepower per LB !! a 26 Convincer with one of these would run into the 90's!!
Also remember that Checkmate created the possibility of twins with these boats by giving it an 8'-6" beam....very nice.
The LS series of engines are poised to replace the old stand by BBC that we have grown up with over the past 45 years. The Tonawanda, NY engine plant that built these ceased production a few years ago so there won't be any more base engines being built. The LS is the heir apparent in the small to medium sized powerboat arena. The after market guys are drooling at the prospect of all the new goodies they can sell us all.
Realistically...1200 horsepower would be better suited for Checkmates ZT 350. Now that would be a lot of fun.
07-16-2012, 08:34 AM
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You're still.....
Your digging does look like 600 lbs is dressed which is very impressive!
Cool thing to me is that it doesn't matter if you're a I/O or O/B guy these days because the technology is so superior to what most of grew up to. The LS based motors your highlighting are at power levels that not long ago meant boosted big blocks!
On the O/B side w/the new direct injected two strokes you can now buy a 300+ HP motor that is 500lb-ish complete (505 for a 300XS), w/a warranty that will give you double the fuel economy of the old days.
Proline is just releasing a mid size, sport cruiser based on multi, new era O/B's.
When I was restoring my Sonic I almost bought a new pair or 300 E-Tecs for it. They had a formula on their website for repowers and I plugged in the #'s from my old Sonic and it came out to (@ $3. per gallon) to enough savings assuming two tanks a month (was doing 4+ in season up north) to make a $500. per mnth payment just on fuel savings!
Pretty cool stuff. Technology is wonderful thing. Dave Bush of O/B drag race fame is working on retrofit kit's for the Opti's and is already @ I think 340ish and would expect more to come.
W/that I'll let this thread go back to be being about the new Checkmate
07-16-2012, 08:57 AM
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07-16-2012, 09:59 AM
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I like what I see......Checkmate is starting to look like they want to sell some boats, even in the troubled times in this great US of A!
They've got the right man at the helm to do it too!
WwW
They've got the right man at the helm to do it too!
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07-18-2012, 12:56 PM
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True running surface
This a new avenue to give the new boat owner exactly what their purchasing.
The new 26 Checkmate Convincer is a true 26 foot running surface. The added swim platform either in Tubular or Fiberglass makes it a 28 L.O.A. (Length over all).
Its all new from Checkmate and we are promoting just the actual running surface on this new 26 Convincer and calling the boat a 26 available in stern drive or twin outboards.
A single 600 S.C.I will gladly fit in the engine compartment.
The Checkmate 270 is a 25.9 running surface and the added platform makes a 27 foot boat over all.
The two are completely different Checkmate models.
The new 26 Checkmate Convincer is a true 26 foot running surface. The added swim platform either in Tubular or Fiberglass makes it a 28 L.O.A. (Length over all).
Its all new from Checkmate and we are promoting just the actual running surface on this new 26 Convincer and calling the boat a 26 available in stern drive or twin outboards.
A single 600 S.C.I will gladly fit in the engine compartment.
The Checkmate 270 is a 25.9 running surface and the added platform makes a 27 foot boat over all.
The two are completely different Checkmate models.
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07-18-2012, 06:22 PM
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Denny, I like the direction you guys are going...
The New 26 will out perform the old 27 in every way I'm sure!
Keep the new models coming!
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The New 26 will out perform the old 27 in every way I'm sure!
Keep the new models coming!
WwW
07-18-2012, 08:43 PM
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This a new avenue to give the new boat owner exactly what their purchasing.
The new 26 Checkmate Convincer is a true 26 foot running surface. The added swim platform either in Tubular or Fiberglass makes it a 28 L.O.A. (Length over all).
Its all new from Checkmate and we are promoting just the actual running surface on this new 26 Convincer and calling the boat a 26 available in stern drive or twin outboards.
A single 600 S.C.I will gladly fit in the engine compartment.
The Checkmate 270 is a 25.9 running surface and the added platform makes a 27 foot boat over all.
The two are completely different Checkmate models.
The new 26 Checkmate Convincer is a true 26 foot running surface. The added swim platform either in Tubular or Fiberglass makes it a 28 L.O.A. (Length over all).
Its all new from Checkmate and we are promoting just the actual running surface on this new 26 Convincer and calling the boat a 26 available in stern drive or twin outboards.
A single 600 S.C.I will gladly fit in the engine compartment.
The Checkmate 270 is a 25.9 running surface and the added platform makes a 27 foot boat over all.
The two are completely different Checkmate models.
