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Fenderjack 08-15-2012 11:54 AM

This whole thread has turned into one big pissing match. There are some great points brought up on both sides about the matter. However who is to decide what is a safe speed to run, yes common sense is a great thing, seems to be dwindling away. That boat was in clear water IMO. What makes it different then going out on a day by your self and running the boat hard? I am sure alot of people have had a close call, even worse. You see a ton of people posting there 140-150 ect mph runs, all any ever does is give them props about it, yet when something like this occurs all anyone wants to do is bring up the negatives about it, why it is so wrong, why the driver is a idiot. What a double edged sword it is. Same thing can happen to some one in a boat running 65 mph. Take the LOTO shoot out, guys saddle up to see who has the biggest balls and can let them hang the best. Who cares if they have a safety crew out, still are running the boats at a great speed, this same thing can happen. And any one who says they don't take their boat out and run it hard, push the envelope to try and get every mph out is full of chit. Then what is the point of putting huge power in it as we do.


John jr

low_psi 08-15-2012 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Fenderjack (Post 3754571)
This whole thread has turned into one big pissing match. There are some great points brought up on both sides about the matter. However who is to decide what is a safe speed to run, yes common sense is a great thing, seems to be dwindling away. That boat was in clear water IMO. What makes it different then going out on a day by your self and running the boat hard? I am sure alot of people have had a close call, even worse. You see a ton of people posting there 140-150 ect mph runs, all any ever does is give them props about it, yet when something like this occurs all anyone wants to do is bring up the negatives about it, why it is so wrong, why the driver is a idiot. What a double edged sword it is. Same thing can happen to some one in a boat running 65 mph. Take the LOTO shoot out, guys saddle up to see who has the biggest balls and can let them hang the best. Who cares if they have a safety crew out, still are running the boats at a great speed, this same thing can happen. And any one who says they don't take their boat out and run it hard, push the envelope to try and get every mph out is full of chit. Then what is the point of putting huge power in it as we do.


John jr

I push my boat to it's ragged edge every now and then, but not around other boats. Or where I can cause harm to others. My point in this thread is at the 160+ speeds my way was traveling, all of the boats in the video are in harms way. Look how far the boat traveleded after going airborne. I am pretty sure he backed off after it went airborne, yet the boat traveled several football fields within seconds before coming to a safe stop. So had he hook left when going airborne, there would have been major carnage...

The faster these boats travel, the more damage they can do, the farther other boats and spectators need to be in case something goes wrong. In a poker run situation, boundaries haven't been set to protect other boaters...

Fenderjack 08-15-2012 01:41 PM

My point being lets all agree to disagree because, we all will interpret in a different way, this all is matter of opinion on each of us. Should have, would have, could have, maybe, maybe no, what if. Again in that particular spot boats were pretty far separated imo. Look at the last race where Cleveland Construction made a hard right hand turn and came within feet of spectators. Did anybody bust their balls? It was a race that was monitored? So I would guess that it would be to blame the people who set the race up for letting boats to close? Where is the line drawn. I certainly understand the safety point in all this, but it is what it is. Fast boats = risks. You can place laws in order only to be broken. I don't totally agree that boats should be balls out among a tight area with other boats, but in this case i don't think that is a issue.

John jr

Gary864 08-15-2012 02:30 PM

The Clevland Constrution incident lead to moving the spectator boats back at the St Clair and Port Huron races. Apples to oranges, Closed Vs Open course.

BBCLiberator 08-15-2012 02:49 PM

This thread is a great example of what is wrong with this site...

pasquesi 08-15-2012 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by BBCLiberator (Post 3754709)
This thread is a great example of what is wrong with this site...

Really? After a few months you've made that determination?

Catastrophe 08-15-2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by BBCLiberator (Post 3754709)
This thread is a great example of what is wrong with this site...

It's lively conversation amongst A TYPE personalities.
Nothin more.
Isn't that what the site is for ?

akaboatman 08-15-2012 05:06 PM

I love OSO. Thats why I pay to be here. :boat: But this boats getting old. We need a new one. LOL

the deep 08-15-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3754824)
It's lively conversation amongst A TYPE personalities.
Nothin more.
Isn't that what the site is for ?

Atta boy ! If you don't like whats on TV turn the fockin channel ! http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/...eep/toetap.gif

BBCLiberator 08-15-2012 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by pasquesi (Post 3754787)
Really? After a few months you've made that determination?

Yup. Been around for many years never joined because of exactly this type of stuff until recently.


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