Another well known member GUILTY of Auto Theft
 

LOOSER !!! :angry-smiley-055:

I hate theives especially big wheel-wanna bee's.

http://pressrepublican.com/0100_news...ai-North-theft

Screen Name for those who dont know?

who is that? So basically any more if ya get busted stealin chit ya just pay a fine?

What is his user name? Crazy stuff.

John jr

How the hell do you steal 1.4 milloin from a dealership over the course of 5 years without getting caught (till now)? Secondly, what kind of deal is that, that he gets sentenced according to how much hes already paid back? Should be sentenced according to the fact that he has 24 counts stealing and selling 24 cars!

Chuck

This guy:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/members/chuck.html

:lolhit:

This guy?


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...here-boat.html

yep that guy

wow. WTF is wrong with people. :waffen093:

Ya, that guy. :D

Nice find:whistle: I was wondering why the other thread just popped up to the top.

looks like they were packing the books...old school car theft

no wonder he could afford a Nor-Tech!

I will say this people, Chuck is a great person and someone that worked in his business was involved which made him responsible. He didnt do the stealing, it was done on his watch. He IS guilty of being a nice guy and being too trusting.. Dont give up on him, He is one of the good guys

Times 1000

I was going to say the same thing... I thought people sung his praises... I dont know him so I wont comment any further.

Man this sucks! I was going to go boating this weekend.

Agreed, I talked to chuck many months back on this. his lesson is be careful whom you partner up with. I wouldnt hesitate to have him do anything for me. Like the other cases so many people want to harp on here. There is much more to this than most know.

Nick, Nort, Bubba.....you guys have known me along time. Chuck is as good as they get. The plea was taken to stop further damage...He has fought this for over a yr. The feds were seaching for anything and everything once they realized they had the wrong guy and that the guy they let go on a year sentence in county jail WAS actually the ring leader. ..... unknowledged people can say what they want about how he buys his boats and all that, but in reality, the man is a hardworking HONEST business man that got taken advantage of and now is paying the price. Very sad story....

150% This is the whole truth here and nothing but, sometimes you need to take one on the chin and keep going, in this case this was the case. I have witnessed this guy be more then a upstanding citizen. One example Chuck had a neighbor that was married and had 2 young kids and was diagnosed with ALS. Chuck did'nt know these people any more then a wave or friendly hi when walking past each other in the neighborhood. This neighbors kids would always ask about Chuck's children's kitty kat snowmobile, and loved it when they got to go for a ride. Almost 2 yrs ago in October Chuck came to me and asked if I would sell him a Kitty Kat so he could give it to these neighbor children as a gift for Christmas to help ease with the burden of their fathers disease. With some help from friends we raised a good amount of money for the new Kitty Kat and we pitched the rest in ourselves. Chuck presented this to the kids on Christmas morning and made two very nice children, very happy at a difficult time. This is the type of guy he is, not the guy you have read about, as Otis said, it was doing of an employee that got away. So please don't 2nd guess without knowing the 150% truth. Thank you just my truthful .02 .

Met chuck on several occasions. Very nice guy that extended an open invitation to everything.

Only meet him once, both Chuck and his wife seemed like good people. Did not seem like the type so I can understand what Otis is saying.

I don't know that I've met him(which is why I didn't say much) but I'll take your word that he is a good guy in a bad situation. I just thought it was ironic after reading the other thread.

Agree !


Now if I read this right, "Prosecutors say the scheme was noticed when the owner of Garvey Hyundai based in Queensbury noted that of the handful of dealerships he owns, the Plattsburgh location was the only one not making a profit.

That would lead me to believe Chuck was the one that had the investigation started right ???

I have met Chuck on many runs. Just from what I personally know of him, this is not his character.

I personally believe he had no knowledge .

That's my .02 and I am sticking to it.

People are wrongly accused and put away everyday.

I feel the same has happened here. :(

He is taken the fall for what these other two had going on.

The woman apparently was the one running this whole scam. Admittedly by the Prosecutor , "Could it never have been caught? Yes. She was doing that good of a job," Blatchley said.

Ok, just watched this keep in mind that if you buy something at a garage sale and it turns out to be stolen you can be charge with criminal possession of stolen property.
The owner of a dealership is really not aware of individual deals, thats what the sales manager and the controller does.

From what I just watched, Chuck was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've talked with Chuck a couple of times over the phone, and he seems like a good guy....... And I can tell you personally, if you don't investigate the people you are in business with 1st, before getting into business with them, it can come back and bite you HARD. Unless it's someone like me, who bites back even harder! People these days will do ANYTHING FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!

Www.Vehiclehistory.gov has a record of title for public record.

I'm with you 1000%. I know. And I know the story. Shtty deal for sure; It's quite sad. I was just identifying who we're talking about before it goes the wrong direction.

After pleading guilty to the charges he is facing up to 15 years in prison if the judge decides to throw the book at him. What exactly is he charged with? What evidence do they have against him? If he wasn't part of this theft ring then why didn't he fight it? I don't understand why he plead guilty if he had nothing to do with it.

If he was facing just a six month sentence then I could understand him just wanting to get it over with but the judge could put him away for 15 fregging years!

I've known Chuck for a while now and this seems way out of character. There is no way he would willingly risk being away from his young family for this.

It works that way...for example, in my case they had NO evidence at all. (Running from the law in fast toys). They never caught me, but heresay from some idiot thats not fast enough to get away - is enough to get you put in handcuffs. At that point they OWN you. Court date after court date. Deal after deal. Big money to attorney time after time... it gets tiring.

Id say he will get the minimum. If he has enough $ to buy a nortech he has enough $ to know his sentence before his court date.

If anyone would like to here the whole story itd make ya sick. Get ahold of me on here or at the docks sometime.

Hope it all works out, obviously this guy isnt a "scum" of the earth criminal...

I dont know Chuck, and can't comment on whether he was guilty or not, I just think it is ironic to see the same faces bashing Pantera for business practices defending this guy.

It's not funny at all if an over-zealous prosecutor is going after an innocent person just to help his own career. It's been done many times and there is nothing funny about it IMO. I'd just like to hear what evidence they have and what they are charging him with.

The article says he's facing a sentence as little as probation up to 15 years in prison all at the discretion of the judge. My gwad that seems like a wide disparity. If I"m innocent I don't see how you agree to plead guilty unless the charges are reduced to a point where you are facing a year or two at worst. Judges have been known to drop understandings between the prosecution and accused into the trash can and give the maximum sentence. Just ask Jeff in the card shark case.

He's facing 15 freaking years. That is sick. I feel so bad for him if he wasn't involved.

Your flag is getting a little tattered by now isn't it?

Not flag waving, I gave that up a long time ago and agree with you all that Pantera doesnt exactly have the best practices. I just think it is Ironic that the same crew is defending someone that "MAY" have questionable business practices. If I knew Chuck I may be waving his flag also.

Maybe I am missing something, but didnt his happen under his watch, and involve his business? Which business is his? I am changing my wording to Ironic, you are correct, it is not funny for him.

Without getting into a huge rant, I agree with you completely Rick. On the bashing part.

In this day and age, of evidence technicians and experts in financial forensics, I find it impossible to believe that this guy is innocent. The DA would be open to a huge lawsuit for even TRYING to convict an innocent person when their reputation is obviously destroyed from even being indicted. Why plead guilty if you are completely innocent? Come on...

You think you know somebody? You don't. Gacy spent countless hours volunteering. Everyone thought he was a great guy.

Joe Paterno was a great guy. Gave millions to charity.

Ken Lay was a great guy. Gave millions to charity.

Then again, I hope for Chuck's sake that somehow he was just signing documents that were put in front of him and truly didn't know what was going on.