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mike tkach 10-23-2012 07:42 AM

air pressure
 
i checked the air pressure in my trailer tires today,the tire calls for max of 55 lbs,5 of them had 55 lbs,but one only had 54 lbs,my question is,did i ruin that tire or is it ok ?

Sea-Dated 10-23-2012 07:52 AM

Yes, you did possibly ruin that tire. I would replace it immediately and just for good measure, replace the other 5 as well so you have all matching tires with the same amount of tread on them.

;)

thirdchildhood 10-23-2012 07:57 AM

Agreed. One PSI lower than the others? How could you allow such an oversight? Yes, the tires are shot now for sure. :(

Kenthegreenkeeper 10-23-2012 08:06 AM

The low tire certainly created drag on one side of the rig. Your tow vehicle is now in need of an alignment.

You may get by, for now, with tire rotation on the tow vehicle, however, a thorough inspection of the brake linings is essential before driving any further.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 08:14 AM

my tow rig is desiel power,now im worried that the uneven drag caused by the low tire might have ruined one of the fuel injectors,should i take the truck to ford and have all the injectors replaced,i want all the cylinders to be even,maybe i will trade it for a gas power,d truck,then i could just regap the plugs.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 08:25 AM

now im worried that the drag caused by the low tire might have ruined one of the ball joints,im afraid to drive the truck to the ford dealer ,should i get it towed in?

4bus 10-23-2012 08:28 AM

First things first.....are you checking them the proper way? I have listed the below the proper way to check and adjust tire pressure on a boat trailer, failure to follow such instructions will cause god to kill a puppy.

1. Hoist the entire trailer and boat off the ground, no tire can be touching as this may throw off the readings.

2. Establish base line cold pressure, then heat each tire using a propane torch to road temp, the number you are looking for is 480 degrees (I know, I didn't believe it at first either) re check pressure.

3. If the pressure "balance" is off more that 1 percent across all tires the AIR is no good and must be changed immediately. Lug nut torque can effect air pressure so be sure to loosen and re-torque them as well.

4. Lastly is the road simulation test, you will need 7 people to perform this accurately. Using 6 air pressure gauges monitor the tire pressure at the same time that the entire trailer and boat are dropped from the hoist. Compare max readings across the tires, if there is any variation at all you will need new tires and have to start this entire process over. I use the nascar spec analog gauge (no digital!) these gauges can be purchased online for about $629.99 each

I know it is winter, but this is basic stuff you should know if you are going to own a boat. Failure to do this make you a danger to not only the public, but the sport as well. Keep the pressure where it should be at all times!!

scarab63 10-23-2012 08:31 AM

Send me all of the old tires so I can assess the damage

mike tkach 10-23-2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3800903)
Send me all of the old tires so I can assess the damage

i will also send the truck tires as im afraid they may also be ruined.the more i think about it,the more i realize the damage that can happen from a low trailer tire.now im thinking the boat may need to de repainted due to the air dragging on the hull on the side with low tire.

Crude Intentions 10-23-2012 08:43 AM

Better check the kanibbler pin and wobbler wheel. Might have to lube muffler bearing as well.

Baldie 10-23-2012 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3800893)
my tow rig is desiel power,now im worried that the uneven drag caused by the low tire might have ruined one of the fuel injectors,should i take the truck to ford and have all the injectors replaced,i want all the cylinders to be even,maybe i will trade it for a gas power,d truck,then i could just regap the plugs.

If it is a Ford 03-07 with a 6.0, I would defiently change those injectors. I would also do the head gaskeys, because the extra load from the lower tire probably caused your caskets to fail as well. While your at it, change out the turn signal fluid and change all the tires to winter air, as summer is almost over.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3800901)
First things first.....are you checking them the proper way? I have listed the below the proper way to check and adjust tire pressure on a boat trailer, failure to follow such instructions will cause god to kill a puppy.

1. Hoist the entire trailer and boat off the ground, no tire can be touching as this may throw off the readings.

2. Establish base line cold pressure, then heat each tire using a propane torch to road temp, the number you are looking for is 480 degrees (I know, I didn't believe it at first either) re check pressure.

3. If the pressure "balance" is off more that 1 percent across all tires the AIR is no good and must be changed immediately. Lug nut torque can effect air pressure so be sure to loosen and re-torque them as well.

4. Lastly is the road simulation test, you will need 7 people to perform this accurately. Using 6 air pressure gauges monitor the tire pressure at the same time that the entire trailer and boat are dropped from the hoist. Compare max readings across the tires, if there is any variation at all you will need new tires and have to start this entire process over. I use the nascar spec analog gauge (no digital!) these gauges can be purchased online for about $629.99 each

I know it is winter, but this is basic stuff you should know if you are going to own a boat. Failure to do this make you a danger to not only the public, but the sport as well. Keep the pressure where it should be at all times!!

are you sure about #3,my nascar spec guage manual sais 1 pound,not 1 percent.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Baldie (Post 3800916)
If it is a Ford 03-07 with a 6.0, I would defiently change those injectors. I would also do the head gaskeys, because the extra load from the lower tire probably caused your caskets to fail as well. While your at it, change out the turn signal fluid and change all the tires to winter air, as summer is almost over.

all good ideas,should i put winter air in the trailer tires,it wont get moved till summer,but im afrain to store it with summer air!

befu 10-23-2012 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3800901)
First things first.....are you checking them the proper way? I have listed the below the proper way to check and adjust tire pressure on a boat trailer, failure to follow such instructions will cause god to kill a puppy.

1. Hoist the entire trailer and boat off the ground, no tire can be touching as this may throw off the readings.

2. Establish base line cold pressure, then heat each tire using a propane torch to road temp, the number you are looking for is 480 degrees (I know, I didn't believe it at first either) re check pressure.

3. If the pressure "balance" is off more that 1 percent across all tires the AIR is no good and must be changed immediately. Lug nut torque can effect air pressure so be sure to loosen and re-torque them as well.

4. Lastly is the road simulation test, you will need 7 people to perform this accurately. Using 6 air pressure gauges monitor the tire pressure at the same time that the entire trailer and boat are dropped from the hoist. Compare max readings across the tires, if there is any variation at all you will need new tires and have to start this entire process over. I use the nascar spec analog gauge (no digital!) these gauges can be purchased online for about $629.99 each

I know it is winter, but this is basic stuff you should know if you are going to own a boat. Failure to do this make you a danger to not only the public, but the sport as well. Keep the pressure where it should be at all times!!

Best reply! As I sit here in the camper with my 5 children finishing up breakfast, I read this thread to everybody. The comment was " so, this is what happens when winter comes and boaters do not have a 2nd hobby or an older boat that needs work."

Come to think of it, I should check my camper tires. Not sure how a 32' camper will take the drop to check tire pressure spike......

sean stinson 10-23-2012 09:14 AM

Fall is in the air....la la-la la-la
The end of boating is near....la la-la la-la
What's there to do now....la la-la la-la

TPro587 10-23-2012 10:06 AM

I am finding it hard to tell if people are being serious about this or not. A 1 pound difference on a trailer can cause all the tires to go bad?

RIPJIVE9311 10-23-2012 10:19 AM

I checked my tires and also had variations in preasure,I am showing this thread to my wife so she can see the potential damage and then calling Whipple and supercharging my motors this winter to avoid all the damage this spring at Desert Storm.

lucky strike 10-23-2012 10:28 AM

All you have to do is take out the summer air & replace it with winter air.

Then you'll be good to go.

scarab63 10-23-2012 10:37 AM

Dice valve stem caps not only look cool, but also help keep the water out of your tires when launching. Just a trick of the trade.
They are lucky too.

Good thread. Very informative.

4bus 10-23-2012 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by TPro587 (Post 3800972)
I am finding it hard to tell if people are being serious about this or not. A 1 pound difference on a trailer can cause all the tires to go bad?

Yes we are serious, I don't think this is anything to joke about! Also please follow my air pressure checking procedure to a T!

phil_p999 10-23-2012 11:15 AM

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I would let 1 psi out of the other 5 and add 10psi to the low one to compensate for damages!

or

sell the trailer and us this method. :lolhit:

Wobble 10-23-2012 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3800898)
now im worried that the drag caused by the low tire might have ruined one of the ball joints,im afraid to drive the truck to the ford dealer ,should i get it towed in?

Most Ford trucks do arrive at the dealer behind a tow truck so I am thinking that should be the most reliable way to get there:evilb:

Sunny32SSR 10-23-2012 11:50 AM

This could have been easily avoided had you checked the level of your blinker fluid reservoir. This is page one of every owners manual.

sommerfliesby 10-23-2012 11:56 AM

This thread belongs in the hall of fame.

Interceptor 10-23-2012 12:11 PM

Have you rotated the air ? Sometimes this will helps.
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RT930turbo 10-23-2012 12:15 PM

Steel trailer or aluminum? If it was aluminum, the extra flex on the hull from lack of support most likely caused your stringers and bulkheads to warp. Might as well have them all replaced over the winter so there are no surprises next season.

Back4More 10-23-2012 12:30 PM

I heard a long time ago that if the little lady gets D cup implants that it reverses any and all ill effects.
This also worked for us on a forgotten password.
Good luck and keep us informed.

the deep 10-23-2012 03:28 PM

Did you re-air all tires with a hand pump and winter air . Air is more stable when hand pumped . Make sure you install an inline moisture scrubber before pumping or you'll fock up the whole process .

Interceptor 10-23-2012 04:05 PM

Also, don't use salt air. Always use unsalted air.

US1 Fountain 10-23-2012 04:20 PM

If you only trailer for a couple miles each way, you should be ok.

No need to pay $0.50 for the air at the station, put that $$ in your gas tank.

Kelly O 10-23-2012 05:19 PM

Without having to waste my time reading all three pages of this most informative thread, can you remind us all............. Is your tow rig SRW or DRW ?

Please keep in mind, the plight of the world rests on your answer.

Interceptor 10-23-2012 05:39 PM

Chris Sunkin could solve this.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by kelly o (Post 3801226)
without having to waste my time reading all three pages of this most informative thread, can you remind us all............. Is your tow rig srw or drw ?

Please keep in mind, the plight of the world rests on your answer.

drw

mike tkach 10-23-2012 05:45 PM

i have learned so much today,and 2 think someone thaught 2 guys with 38 fountains could post nonfactuial threads.

Kelly O 10-23-2012 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3801240)
drw

Thankyou, tonite I will rest easier.

Well, except for the fact that Iran is four years closer to having a nuclear weapon.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Kelly O (Post 3801226)
Without having to waste my time reading all three pages of this most informative thread, can you remind us all............. Is your tow rig SRW or DRW ?

Please keep in mind, the plight of the world rests on your answer.

kelly,i highly recomend reading this thread from the start,you will be amazed at how much trouble 1 tire that is 1 lb low on air pressure can cause!i had no idea.

mike tkach 10-23-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3800994)
Dice valve stem caps not only look cool, but also help keep the water out of your tires when launching. Just a trick of the trade.
They are lucky too.

Good thread. Very informative.

do they make marine dice,or can i use ones from a car?

Randy Nielsen 10-23-2012 06:22 PM

If you use car dice someone will come up short. If you do find some marine dice dont forget to rebalance your tires or your trailer will vibrate possibly causing your fuel & oil levels to fluctuate.

Kelly O 10-23-2012 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3801256)
do they make marine dice,or can i use ones from a car?

Do us all a favor, use the SEARCH function. This has been beat to death in many previous threads !

From what I recall........no, a marine-use dice cap uses a proprietery thread pitch available only through your marine retailer. Marine-use dice caps appear similar to generic automotive types, with the greatest difference being in price. Penny wise consumers purchase marine-use dice caps as part of a wheel/tire/dice cap package qualifying them for significant savings.

Nice Pair 10-23-2012 07:28 PM

When I saw this, I went and checked my traler tires and they were off almost 4 lbs. I'm afraid to move it to get them fixed.

This is going to be a looooong winter.:whistle:


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