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Full Force 07-22-2016 08:36 AM

Totally agree 100% no cats running 100+ in 4-8 ft Great Lakes water... And yes the big dogs stayed at the dock at Boyne, good thing you spent huge money on huge power and 6's because you were afraid to break it, yet my buddy Robs 36 bravo equipped Apache ran until cancelled... Us "low ballers" seem to use our boats more properly then most "ballers"


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4462406)
Here's the thing, I can't remember somebody getting hurt or killed in an offshore big water poker run. All of the accidents have been in poker runs on lakes where even a 31 DCB with 1350's can go out and run 180. That isn't happening when you are offshore.


BBCLiberator 07-22-2016 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4462420)
Totally agree 100% no cats running 100+ in 4-8 ft Great Lakes water... And yes the big dogs stayed at the dock at Boyne, good thing you spent huge money on huge power and 6's because you were afraid to break it, yet my buddy Robs 36 bravo equipped Apache ran until cancelled... Us "low ballers" seem to use our boats more properly then most "ballers"

Burn.

Is there something below "low baller", I think that's where I fit :)

TBAG 07-22-2016 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by DocktorsOarders (Post 4462336)
Rob's 36 was the only Apache. I believe this is the most up to date list.

33 Powerplay
35 Nordic Flame
36 Pantera
36 Apache
38 Cigarette
38 Powerquest
42 Mystic CC
43 Outerlimits
50 Nortech

Ouch, so NO cats at all?

Wasted Income 07-22-2016 09:54 AM

What makes a 35 Nordic a "lake" boat? It has a 24* deadrise like most other offshore boats. Is there something else about the bottom that earns it that distinction? The 28 Nordic takes a lot of "Heat" for being a smooth water boat with its 22* bottom, but why the 35?

mcprodesign 07-22-2016 10:12 AM

Got to admit. The Big water v bottoms are more of a cross country style outing, versus the kentucky derby. Which do you prefer ? :)

DocktorsOarders 07-22-2016 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by twinscrews (Post 4462390)
:(It won't be very cool if someone gets hurt or killed.

You're right, it would suck. Here are my thoughts/opinion. I am not sure where you are coming from on your comment, maybe just a simple statement, maybe there was motive? But I will be absolutely clear in my response.

In my videos you can hear the concern in the crew's voices as we are coming out of the channel and entering into lake Michigan. I hadn't decided what we were going to do yet at this point but I know I wasn't going to turn around at the mouth of a busy channel and make other boats have to move around me and possibly cause contact. So I decided to go out a ways and scope the scene. After we were about a mile or so offshore we idled and talked it over. Everyone voiced their opinions and the crew made a decision AS A WHOLE to continue on. I never made a decision on my own to continue on without their approval, I want my crew to feel comfortable with me behind the wheel and sticks.

Personally on my own account, I would have never continued on to the card stops if the water conditions were beyond my driving ability or the conditions beyond what my boat is capable of, even if they wanted to. All of our life jackets were on, my lanyards were on and everyone gave the thumbs up. I continually checked on them after some of the rougher encounters and I still had the green light from them. The safety of my crew was #1 priority and I will always treat that as #1.

There was a 380 powerquest running in our proximity and I saw them come to a stop/idle twice and we came off our path to check on them and make sure they were good to go. There were no other boats in sight and I wanted to make sure they were safe as well.

I know not all of us have a famous or recognizable name but that doesn't mean that we don't know how to safely operate a boat, and this is nothing directed towards you, your comment just made me want to reply with a statement.

Safety is always #1, regardless of how "dumb" it may be. When we push the limits and run hard or in the rough, poker run or not, life jackets and lanyards are always on or the boat doesn't leave.

Indy 07-22-2016 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Wasted Income (Post 4462454)
What makes a 35 Nordic a "lake" boat? It has a 24* deadrise like most other offshore boats. Is there something else about the bottom that earns it that distinction? The 28 Nordic takes a lot of "Heat" for being a smooth water boat with its 22* bottom, but why the 35?

It's the entry and pad. My 28 Heat had a relatively shallow entry with a pad bottom. The entry on my PowerPlay was much sharper than the 35 Flame. Hats off to the 35' who made the run, they are well constructed boats structurally.

Naughty Kitty 07-22-2016 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4462406)
Here's the thing, I can't remember somebody getting hurt or killed in an offshore big water poker run. All of the accidents have been in poker runs on lakes where even a 31 DCB with 1350's can go out and run 180. That isn't happening when you are offshore.

I'm sure there are plenty, but this one strikes close to home as I've participated in this run: 2005 a 42’ Outerlimits was running in the Smoke On The Water poker run when it flipped over and 4 men were ejected. Two men survived and two perished at our event one body was never recovered.

14 apache 07-22-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4462406)
Here's the thing, I can't remember somebody getting hurt or killed in an offshore big water poker run. All of the accidents have been in poker runs on lakes where even a 31 DCB with 1350's can go out and run 180. That isn't happening when you are offshore.

And the people in the boat will let you know when they had enough of the beating before its to late.. People can feel the speed in 4-8 waves.

SkaterMike82 07-22-2016 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4462420)
Totally agree 100% no cats running 100+ in 4-8 ft Great Lakes water...

I agree with you but also note that i'm pretty sure no one in a V-bottom will run in real 8ft 100 mph a long distance.


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