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I think the flat water that most of the poker runs are now run on gives people a false sense of security, then a rogue wave comes along or the tunnel digests a rooster tail (we all know water doesn't compress) and over it goes.

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Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4462521)

People can feel the speed in 4-8 waves.

I can't...8's and I'm back at the dock waxing the boat!

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Originally Posted by Naughty Kitty (Post 4462519)

Two men survived and two perished at our event one body was never recovered.

Looks like they recovered it 4 years later.

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/artic...99815/?Start=2

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Originally Posted by Wasted Income (Post 4462454)

What makes a 35 Nordic a "lake" boat? It has a 24* deadrise like most other offshore boats. Is there something else about the bottom that earns it that distinction? The 28 Nordic takes a lot of "Heat" for being a smooth water boat with its 22* bottom, but why the 35?

I think a lot of it is a "West Coast" thing as the boats have much different styling, so a different image.

Hell, one of the best rough water Factory 1 boats had a 22* deadrise at the transom!

During the Cuba run from Key West there were a couple of 40ft skaters.

They beat all the V bottoms by hours. Now the V bottoms were almost all CC, but they had big power
capable of running much faster than they did.

It was really rough, just saying

Vee hull for life right here... need the space, can't afford to spend a chit load on a condo everywhere we go to run and not afraid to admit it. Would rather spend that money on fuel and dinners. Weekend warriors need the cabin space! :D

Vee hull FTW

Not normally, but some "can" look at old apache videos... 6-8 seas running 90-100.... But yes in actual rough water most going 60-70 that's when my mistress seems fun lol

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Originally Posted by SkaterMike82 (Post 4462526)

I agree with you but also note that i'm pretty sure no one in a V-bottom will run in real 8ft 100 mph a long distance.

This debate has 2 sides, Poker Run or Raceboats! Even in the roughest water, Lucas Oil's 48' vee does not come close to keeping up with the big MTI's and The super cats, running twin 750hp motors always beat Instigator or any of the 42' Super Vee Extreme (Super Vee extreme runs bigger cubic inch and HP than super cat). The cats ride much worse at lower speeds but once they get on top they are big enough to span them. This only seems to be true in racing, Why beat yourself to a pulp at a Poker Run?

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Originally Posted by 777offshore (Post 4462638)

The cats ride much worse at lower speeds but once they get on top they are big enough to span them.

I think this is the determining factor. When the big cats can get on top of the waves they are faster. When they can't they might as well stay at the dock.

Wasn't insinuating that anyone on this thread are not safe boaters, I hope they are because I'm on some Poker Runs riding right beside them. I guess the reason for the statement is I was on Lanier when four people lost their life last weekend, not a very good feeling.. I truly hope I didn't offend you are anyone else on this thread it was not my intension, just want all of my boating friends to be safe.

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Originally Posted by DocktorsOarders (Post 4462468)

You're right, it would suck. Here are my thoughts/opinion. I am not sure where you are coming from on your comment, maybe just a simple statement, maybe there was motive? But I will be absolutely clear in my response.

In my videos you can hear the concern in the crew's voices as we are coming out of the channel and entering into lake Michigan. I hadn't decided what we were going to do yet at this point but I know I wasn't going to turn around at the mouth of a busy channel and make other boats have to move around me and possibly cause contact. So I decided to go out a ways and scope the scene. After we were about a mile or so offshore we idled and talked it over. Everyone voiced their opinions and the crew made a decision AS A WHOLE to continue on. I never made a decision on my own to continue on without their approval, I want my crew to feel comfortable with me behind the wheel and sticks.

Personally on my own account, I would have never continued on to the card stops if the water conditions were beyond my driving ability or the conditions beyond what my boat is capable of, even if they wanted to. All of our life jackets were on, my lanyards were on and everyone gave the thumbs up. I continually checked on them after some of the rougher encounters and I still had the green light from them. The safety of my crew was #1 priority and I will always treat that as #1.

There was a 380 powerquest running in our proximity and I saw them come to a stop/idle twice and we came off our path to check on them and make sure they were good to go. There were no other boats in sight and I wanted to make sure they were safe as well.

I know not all of us have a famous or recognizable name but that doesn't mean that we don't know how to safely operate a boat, and this is nothing directed towards you, your comment just made me want to reply with a statement.

Safety is always #1, regardless of how "dumb" it may be. When we push the limits and run hard or in the rough, poker run or not, life jackets and lanyards are always on or the boat doesn't leave.