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Old 07-22-2016 | 09:54 AM
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What makes a 35 Nordic a "lake" boat? It has a 24* deadrise like most other offshore boats. Is there something else about the bottom that earns it that distinction? The 28 Nordic takes a lot of "Heat" for being a smooth water boat with its 22* bottom, but why the 35?
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Old 07-22-2016 | 10:12 AM
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Got to admit. The Big water v bottoms are more of a cross country style outing, versus the kentucky derby. Which do you prefer ?
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Old 07-22-2016 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by twinscrews
It won't be very cool if someone gets hurt or killed.
You're right, it would suck. Here are my thoughts/opinion. I am not sure where you are coming from on your comment, maybe just a simple statement, maybe there was motive? But I will be absolutely clear in my response.

In my videos you can hear the concern in the crew's voices as we are coming out of the channel and entering into lake Michigan. I hadn't decided what we were going to do yet at this point but I know I wasn't going to turn around at the mouth of a busy channel and make other boats have to move around me and possibly cause contact. So I decided to go out a ways and scope the scene. After we were about a mile or so offshore we idled and talked it over. Everyone voiced their opinions and the crew made a decision AS A WHOLE to continue on. I never made a decision on my own to continue on without their approval, I want my crew to feel comfortable with me behind the wheel and sticks.

Personally on my own account, I would have never continued on to the card stops if the water conditions were beyond my driving ability or the conditions beyond what my boat is capable of, even if they wanted to. All of our life jackets were on, my lanyards were on and everyone gave the thumbs up. I continually checked on them after some of the rougher encounters and I still had the green light from them. The safety of my crew was #1 priority and I will always treat that as #1.

There was a 380 powerquest running in our proximity and I saw them come to a stop/idle twice and we came off our path to check on them and make sure they were good to go. There were no other boats in sight and I wanted to make sure they were safe as well.

I know not all of us have a famous or recognizable name but that doesn't mean that we don't know how to safely operate a boat, and this is nothing directed towards you, your comment just made me want to reply with a statement.

Safety is always #1, regardless of how "dumb" it may be. When we push the limits and run hard or in the rough, poker run or not, life jackets and lanyards are always on or the boat doesn't leave.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
What makes a 35 Nordic a "lake" boat? It has a 24* deadrise like most other offshore boats. Is there something else about the bottom that earns it that distinction? The 28 Nordic takes a lot of "Heat" for being a smooth water boat with its 22* bottom, but why the 35?
It's the entry and pad. My 28 Heat had a relatively shallow entry with a pad bottom. The entry on my PowerPlay was much sharper than the 35 Flame. Hats off to the 35' who made the run, they are well constructed boats structurally.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
Here's the thing, I can't remember somebody getting hurt or killed in an offshore big water poker run. All of the accidents have been in poker runs on lakes where even a 31 DCB with 1350's can go out and run 180. That isn't happening when you are offshore.
I'm sure there are plenty, but this one strikes close to home as I've participated in this run: 2005 a 42’ Outerlimits was running in the Smoke On The Water poker run when it flipped over and 4 men were ejected. Two men survived and two perished at our event one body was never recovered.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
Here's the thing, I can't remember somebody getting hurt or killed in an offshore big water poker run. All of the accidents have been in poker runs on lakes where even a 31 DCB with 1350's can go out and run 180. That isn't happening when you are offshore.
And the people in the boat will let you know when they had enough of the beating before its to late.. People can feel the speed in 4-8 waves.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
Totally agree 100% no cats running 100+ in 4-8 ft Great Lakes water...
I agree with you but also note that i'm pretty sure no one in a V-bottom will run in real 8ft 100 mph a long distance.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 02:11 PM
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I think the flat water that most of the poker runs are now run on gives people a false sense of security, then a rogue wave comes along or the tunnel digests a rooster tail (we all know water doesn't compress) and over it goes.
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Old 07-22-2016 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
People can feel the speed in 4-8 waves.
I can't...8's and I'm back at the dock waxing the boat!
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Old 07-22-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Naughty Kitty
Two men survived and two perished at our event one body was never recovered.
Looks like they recovered it 4 years later.

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/artic...99815/?Start=2
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