The Future of Powerboat Values
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On the whole, we're just to broke. Engineers like myself have to compete with floods of Indians and Chinese, but we're mostly getting by ok. We can buy modest houses and jet skis at this point, or small run abouts. That what my friends have, but our incomes are about double the national average household income. So that's def not the average gen Y or millennial.
Lawyers are graduated at twice the rate that they are needed and their incomes have absolutely plummeted. Not that you're going to catch me shedding a tear for ambulance chasers. But in the boom times they made more than enough to buy nice boats.
The AMA has severely limited the number of students accepted to medical programs. Not that they'd even be making any money yet at my age, but getting close.
If your parents weren't rich or generous, lots of these folks will be servicing 100k+ in student loan debt. That's your slip fee and boat payment right there.
I'm a 1985er. If you would have told me 10 years ago in high school how much I'd be making now, yet still not own a boat, I'd have called you crazy. Inflation is a *****. And I have terribly expensive taste.
In summary, I make 1/3 or my parents peak household income during the dot com boom of the late 90s-2000. Adjusted for real inflation that's probably more like 1/5. And I'm not holding out hope for any sort of miraculous recovery in the near term.
Lawyers are graduated at twice the rate that they are needed and their incomes have absolutely plummeted. Not that you're going to catch me shedding a tear for ambulance chasers. But in the boom times they made more than enough to buy nice boats.
The AMA has severely limited the number of students accepted to medical programs. Not that they'd even be making any money yet at my age, but getting close.
If your parents weren't rich or generous, lots of these folks will be servicing 100k+ in student loan debt. That's your slip fee and boat payment right there.
I'm a 1985er. If you would have told me 10 years ago in high school how much I'd be making now, yet still not own a boat, I'd have called you crazy. Inflation is a *****. And I have terribly expensive taste.
In summary, I make 1/3 or my parents peak household income during the dot com boom of the late 90s-2000. Adjusted for real inflation that's probably more like 1/5. And I'm not holding out hope for any sort of miraculous recovery in the near term.
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Keith - I hope you didn't go into engineering for the money!!! If so, some guidance counselor steered you wrong!!!
I come from an entire family of engineers and they all did it because they enjoyed it - not because they ever believed it would make them rich. In my mind the great thing about engineering is you make a solid living from day one and you might have to save and buy that nice boat a little later in life than some other profession. These days - that's probably a best case scenario......
Don't get too discouraged man - you'll get what you want eventually. Timing sucks for buying boats (from a lending standpoint)................
My brother is a born in 85 engineer - every time he jumps off my boat and heads home with no cares in the world I think to myself that he's the smart one and I'm the dumb ass.
I come from an entire family of engineers and they all did it because they enjoyed it - not because they ever believed it would make them rich. In my mind the great thing about engineering is you make a solid living from day one and you might have to save and buy that nice boat a little later in life than some other profession. These days - that's probably a best case scenario......
Don't get too discouraged man - you'll get what you want eventually. Timing sucks for buying boats (from a lending standpoint)................
My brother is a born in 85 engineer - every time he jumps off my boat and heads home with no cares in the world I think to myself that he's the smart one and I'm the dumb ass.
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Seems the younger guys like it this way also, so much easier.
Regarding powerboats newer used boats will hold in value and straigthbottoms are coming sadly obsolete. Nobody want's to have the ownerships costs of a wave crusher nowadays, and those that can swing one can't maintain it. Thenagain the newer boats are for people who usually can so there goes the divider. Straightbottoms will always be at rockbottom prises in the future and step bottoms not just because of the fact that at cruise speed they zip less fuel. At WOT no boat is running on the steps but the rear pad/bottom
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Yep, seeing so many indebted people get in trouble once they lost their lost their income has made some of us quite conservative. Thankfully my roommate has a boat, so the itch hasn't been to bad.
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I'm a Mechanical engineer and I figured out 25 years ago that the diploma alone wasn't enough. I used my education to learn as much as I could about all that I could and became a licensed contractor in several disciplines.
My advice to you younger guys: take the test and get a State Certification in one or more related fields to your degree. I doubled my income by qualifying contractors in different trades.
Get your licence and maintain the CEU's required to keep it. Trust me...it will make a difference. Additionally...get a PE certification in your state...it makes a difference.
My advice to you younger guys: take the test and get a State Certification in one or more related fields to your degree. I doubled my income by qualifying contractors in different trades.
Get your licence and maintain the CEU's required to keep it. Trust me...it will make a difference. Additionally...get a PE certification in your state...it makes a difference.
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On the whole, we're just to broke. Engineers like myself have to compete with floods of Indians and Chinese, but we're mostly getting by ok. We can buy modest houses and jet skis at this point, or small run abouts. That what my friends have, but our incomes are about double the national average household income. So that's def not the average gen Y or millennial.
Lawyers are graduated at twice the rate that they are needed and their incomes have absolutely plummeted. Not that you're going to catch me shedding a tear for ambulance chasers. But in the boom times they made more than enough to buy nice boats.
The AMA has severely limited the number of students accepted to medical programs. Not that they'd even be making any money yet at my age, but getting close.
If your parents weren't rich or generous, lots of these folks will be servicing 100k+ in student loan debt. That's your slip fee and boat payment right there.
I'm a 1985er. If you would have told me 10 years ago in high school how much I'd be making now, yet still not own a boat, I'd have called you crazy. Inflation is a *****. And I have terribly expensive taste.
In summary, I make 1/3 or my parents peak household income during the dot com boom of the late 90s-2000. Adjusted for real inflation that's probably more like 1/5. And I'm not holding out hope for any sort of miraculous recovery in the near term.
Lawyers are graduated at twice the rate that they are needed and their incomes have absolutely plummeted. Not that you're going to catch me shedding a tear for ambulance chasers. But in the boom times they made more than enough to buy nice boats.
The AMA has severely limited the number of students accepted to medical programs. Not that they'd even be making any money yet at my age, but getting close.
If your parents weren't rich or generous, lots of these folks will be servicing 100k+ in student loan debt. That's your slip fee and boat payment right there.
I'm a 1985er. If you would have told me 10 years ago in high school how much I'd be making now, yet still not own a boat, I'd have called you crazy. Inflation is a *****. And I have terribly expensive taste.
In summary, I make 1/3 or my parents peak household income during the dot com boom of the late 90s-2000. Adjusted for real inflation that's probably more like 1/5. And I'm not holding out hope for any sort of miraculous recovery in the near term.
Question to the younger guys, Nate and Machloosey:
Did your parents own a boat?
People who grew up in boat-owning families often end up owning boats. Because they've been exposed to what's involved, they tend to be less intimidated by the notion of having a boat of their own. It's almost as if the legacy of boat ownership and lifestyle is passed down.
So I'm curious as to what you guys had, in terms of early exposure, to boats.
Did your parents own a boat?
People who grew up in boat-owning families often end up owning boats. Because they've been exposed to what's involved, they tend to be less intimidated by the notion of having a boat of their own. It's almost as if the legacy of boat ownership and lifestyle is passed down.
So I'm curious as to what you guys had, in terms of early exposure, to boats.
As far as boat values, they are only worth what someone is willing to pay and like I said earlier the job market sucks since there is a huge supply and little demand. Falling wages are happening for the jobs available also.
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I'm a Mechanical engineer and I figured out 25 years ago that the diploma alone wasn't enough. I used my education to learn as much as I could about all that I could and became a licensed contractor in several disciplines.
My advice to you younger guys: take the test and get a State Certification in one or more related fields to your degree. I doubled my income by qualifying contractors in different trades.
Get your licence and maintain the CEU's required to keep it. Trust me...it will make a difference. Additionally...get a PE certification in your state...it makes a difference.
My advice to you younger guys: take the test and get a State Certification in one or more related fields to your degree. I doubled my income by qualifying contractors in different trades.
Get your licence and maintain the CEU's required to keep it. Trust me...it will make a difference. Additionally...get a PE certification in your state...it makes a difference.



