Honda gen question
 

I see a lot of guys running these guys...http://powerequipment.honda.com/gene...models/eu2000i

They are amazingly quiet and a great choice, but my question is how do you rig them? Are you routing the exhaust outside or just relying on blower fans? or???

I haven't had to use mine but I will sit it in front of the windshield on the bow.

Strap it to your swim platform and run your power cable to it.

I ran a number of nights with it strapped to the swim platform with the bow anchored so the wind would help carry exhaust away....a local guy had his plumbed to run IN the engine compartment with hi-temp hose for exhaust and a fuel line T off the main supply line to the engines. He'd leave the hatch cracked and blower fan running all night when it was running......I don't think I would have run it like that but it actually looked OK the way it was setup.

No matter how you run it make sure you have a carbon monoxide detector on board.

This good advice. We were in georga for a barell race in 2006 when a lady died from carbon monoxide poisoning. The generator exhaust leaked into her trailer while she was sleeping :poopoo:

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I use a bungee.

I run a batt charger and it keeps all this running

Nav scree/ Video at night/ Radar watchman mode (big lakes)
9" Screen in cabin
9" Screen in midcabin
20 LED lights
Stereo
12V chargers (phones laptops/ wifi)
+ I run a 12V low power AC unit in the cabin at night to sleep and even though its "low" power it will flatten a Pc 2150 in 3 hours.

Ive never had any issues, but I have a detector.

Uncle Dave

So you don't use the built in inverter for anything but a battery charger, and let the boats inverter do the work? Do you use the 1000 watt or the 2000 watt? what size charger?

Too bad these don't have an electric start option.

My boat does not have an "inverter."

Its a straight up 12V system connecting to pc2150's and a perko switch.
All the stuff onboard is 12V (Ill plug an inverter from 12 to 120 for laptop AC inside the cabin. )

My motorhome has an inverter the inverts 12V to 110 using the 4 house batteries. I use the 2K to run a charger to the house bank to control the load on long camping trips. This way I can idle the genny the whole time.

The honda generator is an "inverter" which means it can vary the RPM to suits the load placed upon up to 2000 W for 20 minutes then 1600 sustained.

Battery charger, I have half a dozen of them the little schumacher is great , and I have couple other brands I like but their name escapes me. Ill go look. Typically 20 AMPs is the highest Ill go.

I use the 2K - great little machine. The 1K is just a bit weak for my needs. Ive got 2 of them a camo unit and a "companion"
Got a zillion hours on the camo unit & has run literally weeks flat out powering the wife units dog grooming van while the big onan was out for service.

Yeah electric would be nice, but they are easy to start and the cord lasts about 5 years of light use and three of heavy before you have to replace them - which is a bitc#.

If I had to buy all over again today - I'd buy the yamaha.

Ive done a couple of timing belts now on the camo unit and the Yamaha uses a chain- nicer IMHO

I also like the ability to drain the float bowl with a fuel shut off - a very nice feature for a seldom used genny, you will be fighting bad gas forever if you let them sit without draining the float bowls.


Uncle Dave

X-2 on the carbon monoxide sensor!! We almost lost two boys at a rodeo one year and they had the generator in back about 10 feet from the trailer but the breeze was just right and sent the exhaust into the trailer and they had to be carried out almost comatose, both were revived and rodeoed that day but it was scary as you don't know it is happening and just go into a deep sleep.

What do you want to use the gen for?
I get the idea you are wanting to install it in the engine compartment?
It would need to be attached tightly and exhausted outside. I dont think running the blower would be adequate, allowing heat and exhaust to build up.

This is one how to link for an exhaust tube - http://macgregorsailors.com/modt/index.php?view=653

On the water, I usually use mine to charge strero batteries with a 90 amp Iota power supply.
It simply sits on the floor behind my drivers seat, I raise the bow hatch to create as much air circulation. Exhaust is not a huge problem, especially using the variable economy setting. We do not let people hang out on the boat while gen is running and frankly the stereo is too loud to be on the boat ;)

I have found using fresh 91 no alcohol fuel with a fuel cleaner/stabilizer additive (Conklin fuel mate) the gen does not have as much exhaust smell as pump 87.

Setting it on the bow of small boats like ours, the gen vibrates significantly and is my last resort. On the bow of larger boats, like our friend's 33 OL, the fiberglass is heavier with less vibration.

Do you have Insurance? If so, do yourself a favor and give them a call and talk about installing a Non-Coast Guard Certified Gen. mounted in your bilge, see what they say. If they give you the green light, get it in writing and go for it.

Anywhere but on your swim step is stupid....and you still should have a sensor in the cabin anyway!


That link two posts up is the most ridiculous thing I have read!!!

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Exhaust Extension: A 3-foot long wire reinforced heavy-duty 1" ID marine fuel hose routes exhaust overboard thru a port in a transom insert. Other exhaust hose choices can be made. The Honda exhaust discharge is about 5/8"I.D. The sudden enlargement to 1" hose, nearly tripling the OEM exhaust area, reduces velocity, pressure, and temperature. The hose length is such that the outlet is 6" or less below the stern water surface (minimizing back-pressure on valves). The submersed discharge makes some serious bubbles, and is audible - a babbling brook. To fasten the hose to the generator, a steel 3/4" NPT pipe-coupling fitting was welded to the generator exhaust outlet. The exterior end is roughly flush with the edge of the generator housing. A common 3/4" steel street ell is permanently screwed into the welded coupling. This is the shortest off-shelf 90-deg angle combo we found. The 1" hose is slipped over a 3/4" close-nipple and clamped with a SS hose clamp. The three fittings may be painted with high-temp paint to reduce rusting.

remember seeing one mounted in the bilge with the exhaust piped in stainless out the hull... it was a neat rig job but prolly not coast guard approved:whistle:...could not find it doing a search but it's on this site somewhere I believe.:party-smiley-004:

found it!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ngine-bay.html

i even commented:grinser010:

Honestly the only problem I see with it is handling the exhaust, and not venting the fuel system in an enclosed area.
If it were rigged like this http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ngine-bay.html and you changed the cap to an external vent set up it should be fine. Run your blower like you should be doing anytime the boat is running while stationary. The exhaust is not hot enough to need to be water cooled. a blower would take care of engine heat.
As far as the electronics they would be no more dangerous that allot other stuff that gets rigged in the engine bay. Use a little common sense and follow the precautions you would use when you run any other engine. It is, after just an engine running an alternator.
So address the exhaust, address the vented cap, put a carbon monitor on your boat, and run your blower.

Great!!! He can print this out and send it to his insurance company. LOL :lolhit::evilb: :D :D

Yeah I hear you, but the Same guy takes a boat rigged with 330hp merc and puts a blower on a 540 at 900+up and everybody just says that's bad ass and the fun police never show up :lolhit:

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm......................Professor, I'm not picking up what you're laying down. WTF does that have to do with the subject? :D:D
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The Honda 2000eu generators are the way to go! I see so many people converting from 3+++ batteries to 2 batteries and a generator set up.

Many people remove the feet and wither make a tray for them (possibly buy one) or strap them down. From there we designed a water jacketed exhaust dump that hooks into a header distribution line or something like it, so you can run the generator while moving and not have to worry about your gel coat.

Many people do them differently but we weld a -10 steel bung to the exhaust tip and use a SS hardline (have it U up so water doesn't revert) that connects to the dump (we install the dump under the water line). Cool thing is that you can remove the generator and leave the exhaust tube in the boat, if needed.

If anyone has any questions feel free to give us a call! -Eric

Any pictures of your exhaust ? Thanks Artie