Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > General Discussion > General Boating Discussion
Time for a rebuild. Which way to go NA or Supercharged? >

Time for a rebuild. Which way to go NA or Supercharged?

Notices

Time for a rebuild. Which way to go NA or Supercharged?

Thread Tools
 
Old 03-17-2013, 11:56 PM
  #21  
Registered
 
Johnny Venomous's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hudson River, NY
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face

Doing okay, been a real tough year though. How about you brutha???
Johnny Venomous is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 12:35 AM
  #22  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 4,480
Likes: 0
Received 40 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

I'm not sure of your setup, but 775 hp is possible. The problem is that you have to be spinning that poor little blower for all it's worth. I won't usually do a 2.3 on anything over 509-516 ci. We just recently did a 509 with a side mount 2.3. It was a built engine, alum. heads, etc. and made over 800 hp with the 2.3. The problem was that I had to spin the blower 300% overdrive. At 5500 rpm crank speed, that's 16,500 of blower speed. It barely made 5 psi of boost. We were already past the efficiency of the blower, so I didn't dare spin it any harder. A 3.3 on the same engine would have made over 900 hp.

Even if you were only making 750 hp, you would need one hell of a healthy NA 540 to make that power. However, you will never match the torque. As for longevity, the NA engine will not live as long as a tame sc engine at that power level. You will be severly disappointed if you remove the sc, if the current engine is making anywhere near that power. You already have an sc engine, why get rid of it. I would look into a little larger blower. I'm not saying that just for additional power, but it will be able to make the same power easier than the smaller blower. Let me know if I can help answer any questions.
Eddie
Young Performance is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 07:54 AM
  #23  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rockwood MI. Kalkaska MI. Sopron Hungary.
Posts: 1,558
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Whipple 509 E.F.I. is the way to go for sure. You will not be disappointed period. Great fuel economy and nice power with lots of torque and a low PSI setting. My builder built me a great package with zero problems and 750+ hp on a very light tune.
laszlo01 is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 01:05 PM
  #24  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: chicago
Posts: 11,332
Received 71 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

I 100% completely agree with Eddie.

People assume because its ''naturally aspirated" its gonna last longer. In order to make lets say 750HP out of a 540, it will hardly be a long lifed mild mannered engine. Its gonna take a lot of compression, a lot of camshaft, and a lot of RPM to do it.

Now, with a blower, to make 750HP out of a 540ci, you can use the right blower, low boost, mild hydraulic camshaft, and easily make that power, and at a reasonable RPM level. It can be extremely user friendly around the docks, and no wake zones.

Also, the beauty of going with a larger compressor like Eddie says, you always have the option to take that low boost 750HP setup, and crank out some more power with a pulley swap if desired.
MILD THUNDER is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 01:44 PM
  #25  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: chicago
Posts: 11,332
Received 71 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
You make me feel better about wanting to keep mine at 3.5 psi.. must resist peer pressure to swap pulley
Are you having a heavy flow day? Have a cranberry juice and start loosening those pulleys champ. That's a 90mph paint job on your boat, not a 80mph one.
MILD THUNDER is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 02:34 PM
  #26  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,731
Received 4,286 Likes on 1,237 Posts
Default

Lmao! Now I got a paint job to live up to!?
ICDEDPPL is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 03:37 PM
  #27  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 503
Received 26 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Go blown or go home!!!!!! HAPPY BOATING.
30ftpanther is offline  
Old 03-18-2013, 08:57 PM
  #28  
VIP Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Smitty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago il
Posts: 4,213
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The motor I built is 540 CI, roller cam 9.5 to 1, 4 lbs boost on 93 octane EFI motor. Makes 800 HP at 5500 and close to 900 ft lbs at 3200. The torque is killer and man can you feel it
__________________
Want your ECU tuned right?? Call Mark at Precision www.pmefi.com
Smitty is offline  
Old 03-19-2013, 03:10 PM
  #29  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,731
Received 4,286 Likes on 1,237 Posts
Thumbs up

Pretty identical to mine except fuel delivery.





540ci Bow-Tie blocks, Dart heads w/ marine valves, BDS 871 blowers – only running 3 ½ lbs of boost, Nickerson 980 carbs,


EDIT: I`m at 8.4:1

Last edited by ICDEDPPL; 03-19-2013 at 04:10 PM.
ICDEDPPL is offline  
Old 03-19-2013, 03:39 PM
  #30  
Fast Singles Club
Gold Member
iTrader: (8)
 
the deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Raystown Lake , Pa.
Posts: 3,985
Received 387 Likes on 156 Posts
Wink I See Dead People

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
Pretty identical to mine except fuel delivery.





540ci Bow-Tie blocks, Dart heads w/ marine valves, BDS 871 blowers – only running 3 ½ lbs of boost, Nickerson 980 carbs,
Very nice and real close to what i have in mind .
the deep is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.