Multi weight oils. Good info.
04-23-2013 | 09:08 AM
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So orielly is dumping valvoline vr 1 full synthetic at $3.95 a quart because they are not going to carry it anymore. Is valvoline discontinuing it? I have always run the regular vr1 but never the full synthetic. I want to try it and bought all I could find but it looks like we may not be able to find it anymore in the future.
04-23-2013 | 09:14 AM
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if you think what is good for a 7 second dragrace is what we should be useing in your 1000+marine engine that runs for hours at a time you are mistaken.benny,just for the record,what power do you have in your boat?
04-23-2013 | 09:21 AM
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My story was not to prove a point. Mild asked what I used and why. I answered what I used and the company history is part of why. On my earlier post I said the test was misleading and unfair to ALL oils. If you believe that statement is wrong, negative, arguementive so be it. Simply put you believe some random numbers, that I certainly have no idea where they come from, to be fact. But, real world results are according to you dillusional.
04-23-2013 | 10:11 AM
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Ok, fair enough. I use Royal Purple. I use Royal Purple because of what I know about the company and their performance in the world of racing. For example: NHRA PRO/STOCK. Several cars run Royal Purple. They run the XPR 3.1 which is a 0W-5. Mike Edwards is a user. This year he has qualified number one at all 5 races and reset the record twice this year. Most recently this past Saturday. Naturally aspirated 1500 horse big blocks shifting at 10,600. Say's something I think.They have like no oil pressure at idle but don't hurt parts. Why? I assume the high film strength of the product.
Anyway, the company started as an industrial company specializing in oiling problems/solutions. There biggest customer was and still is Mobil. Mobil could not keep their Alaskan Pipe line pumps together. They hired Royal Purple who solved their problems. That was quite some time ago before they went into the motor oil business. Their "synerlec" ingredient is in their industrial products as well as their motor oil. I don't want to get into a full blown boring deal here. But you asked. Royal Purple buys the majority of their base product from Mobil. Except they actually buy a better grade I believe than what Mobil uses in their own Mobil 1. Most of the oil companies buy a pre mixed bag of ingredients from Lubrizol. Royal Purple buys from Lubrizol as well, but they buy the ingredients they choose one by one. They mix it like a a baker makes a cake one ingredient at a time (as opposed to dumping it all in like say a Duncan Hines mix would be done). There is a specific temperature and time for each ingredient to be added. All of their oils have superior corrosion protection (which I feel we need in a marine world as well as all the down time between useage). Of course there is much more and this explanation is certainly over simplified, but I believe in their product. I don't care what a chart says although they were ok on the chart of 14 listed. Even though their best oils were not part of his data base. I regress, sorry! The fact is real world results are there for anyone to check. That's my story.
Anyway, the company started as an industrial company specializing in oiling problems/solutions. There biggest customer was and still is Mobil. Mobil could not keep their Alaskan Pipe line pumps together. They hired Royal Purple who solved their problems. That was quite some time ago before they went into the motor oil business. Their "synerlec" ingredient is in their industrial products as well as their motor oil. I don't want to get into a full blown boring deal here. But you asked. Royal Purple buys the majority of their base product from Mobil. Except they actually buy a better grade I believe than what Mobil uses in their own Mobil 1. Most of the oil companies buy a pre mixed bag of ingredients from Lubrizol. Royal Purple buys from Lubrizol as well, but they buy the ingredients they choose one by one. They mix it like a a baker makes a cake one ingredient at a time (as opposed to dumping it all in like say a Duncan Hines mix would be done). There is a specific temperature and time for each ingredient to be added. All of their oils have superior corrosion protection (which I feel we need in a marine world as well as all the down time between useage). Of course there is much more and this explanation is certainly over simplified, but I believe in their product. I don't care what a chart says although they were ok on the chart of 14 listed. Even though their best oils were not part of his data base. I regress, sorry! The fact is real world results are there for anyone to check. That's my story.
I place no trust in anything related to nascar, nhra, or any kind of sponsored sport. Theres more politics in that than in Chicago's city hall.
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04-23-2013 | 10:27 AM
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Sadly, this really has turned ugly and has gone no where. The race example was just that. An example of real world performance. Something I felt you could actually look at and say gee that stuff works pretty good. No where in my previous posts did I mention any particular oil brand. I thought I had a legit question to the fairness of the almighty chart. And as I said to ICDEDPPL in post 63 you asked me what I ran and why. I answered your freakin' question. I did not promote any oil. Now you are beating me up for giving you an honest answer.
04-23-2013 | 11:17 AM
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No point in beating a dead horse. Ben, you like royal purple, that's what you prefer, and nothing wrong with that. You've stated your reasons for running it, and maybe it will help someone who's considering running royal purple.
Lets move on and get back on track. There was some good info posted up regarding oils, pressure issues, and so on.
Lets move on and get back on track. There was some good info posted up regarding oils, pressure issues, and so on.
04-23-2013 | 11:47 AM
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04-23-2013 | 11:47 AM
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This old cat once told me "...if you're bad about your oil change frequency use synthetic because it lasts longer. If you're good about your frequency stick to the Dino oils and the mfr suggested weights..."
Makes sense to me. Todays oils are leaps and bounds better than the oils pre 1990's. Regardless of weights they last much longer, manaufactuers are suggesting much longer oil change intervals as a result, for instance no longer every 3k miles...but now 7-10k and in some cases even more. WTF?! Now whether us old cats will ever trust those recommendations because we've been conditioned otherwise or not is another debate. Certainly I don't, BUT it illustrates there is a difference in today's manufacturing of oil compared to yester-year mainly to reduce consumption of said oils from excessive oil change intervals.
Moral of the story....stick to the manufacturer's suggested weights, and be good about your change intervals and use quality filters....that fellow sirs, is where the anchor lies....
Makes sense to me. Todays oils are leaps and bounds better than the oils pre 1990's. Regardless of weights they last much longer, manaufactuers are suggesting much longer oil change intervals as a result, for instance no longer every 3k miles...but now 7-10k and in some cases even more. WTF?! Now whether us old cats will ever trust those recommendations because we've been conditioned otherwise or not is another debate. Certainly I don't, BUT it illustrates there is a difference in today's manufacturing of oil compared to yester-year mainly to reduce consumption of said oils from excessive oil change intervals.
Moral of the story....stick to the manufacturer's suggested weights, and be good about your change intervals and use quality filters....that fellow sirs, is where the anchor lies....
