100-mph Chaparral Project Update: Major Hull and Deck Surgery Underway
 

The latest update, http://speedonthewater.com/boat-rest...-underway.html.

I applaud his ambition and ideas of not going down the same path as several others, but wow I can't say I'd put that much work and $$$$$ into that boat. Good luck I hope he reaches his goal

+1

I don't know anything about that hull so maybe I'm the one in the dark?

idiot

weird!
is that likea
23 foot flattie lake boat?

As a fan of older small boats, I find it very interesting as I've also dumped rediculous sums of $$$ into projects that I was told were silly...

-Gotta have passion for your project and this guy's got it!:thankyouthankyou:

Kurt

At this point i would find a different boat to put that motor in.... And if i remember right it had an Alpha drive on it anyhow.

ITS got a bravo now, alpha was ditched

I take it this hull has some kind of sentimental value to the owner? At least I hope. To rip the transom and stringers out of that boat doesn't make a lot of sense to me, can't he find a dry replacement hull for like 1000 bucks?

why do I just know this is going to end badly....I hope he intends on doing some bottom work...if the boat doesn't come apart at speed...

drop it out of a c130...it'll do 120...heh

Been there, done that, at least on the rotten transom and stringers. Looking back on it, I don't think I would do it again.

If you guys really want answers to your questions or insight into this project you should direct the inquiries to 88VILLAINiii.
It is his boat/project/thread.

....and hurling insults accomplishes what? :confused:

DITTO! Is the lake still frozen boys? Read the guys thread. Yea the boat means something to him and his family. Will the boat see 100. Probably not and he knows this. He's just doing what we all have done and continue to do.....spend money on something he enjoys and hopefully will be able to enjoy for a long time. Pause and think before we type. I know I forget from time to time.

I second your opinion. Chris! Go for it buddy! My exhaust cost just as much as my boat itself. If ya want check out my build thread on my IMP! My dad and I have matching Eleganza's (both running in the 70's!). The reason why we did the same! Good luck! Ill keep checking this thread!

Being the owner of an 88 VillainIII boat I can appreciate what the OP is doing. Although my boat looks alot different than his, mine has a molded in swim platform, and a different windshield. Just before I purchased the boat the transom and stringers were replaced, along with complete interior re
upolstery. More money was put into the boat 2X over than what iI purchased it for. It also has the stock 7.4L power plant in it and has no problem getting to 65 MPH with 70 gallons of fuel and all the cargo and passengers on it. I looked for a long time before I found the right one, and this was the boat I was looking for, love the lines and performance of this one.[IMG]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...psf313d644.jpg[/IMG]

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i would be happy to answer any questions out there i can. i appreciate the support and criticism too. Matt will be doing all the major updates on the build as it progresses. whether or not the shoot for the moon goal will be hit, is yet to be determined, i know there are a lot of doubts and rightfully so. but with out setting a goal there is nothing to work towards. As for the boat i have never taken the easy way out in any project i have succeeded in or failed so i figured why now. it would of been easy to buy a turn key but thats just not me. i tend to like older boats as for there design attracts me more. like i said ask away and ill answer. hope to see some of you out on the water soon:sport009:

If putting 4x the NADA value in a old boat to make it brand new again dumb and a bad investment, that makes buying a new boat off the showroom floor a smart investment. lol :thankyouthankyou:

I hope your project is a success!

XT

I think its a cool project...but In everything that's happening in the offshore world...a 21 Chaparral is "news worthy"
That might be a tad harsh....Matt and crew do a great job...but yall know what I mean

Are they a 24 or 26 degree vee?

I believe it's a 22 at transom and 25-26 at entry

88VILLAINiii,

Although a big part of me thinks you're crazy for sinking so much money into that hull, another part of me congratulates you for following your heart.

That said, please be careful. It's very easy to over-power many hulls - yours included. This will manifest itself several ways. First, you may find some evil handling traits at higher speeds. (That hull just wasn't designed to go that fast.)

Second, you will find the limits of the hull construction - which can be equally dangerous. True high performance boats utilize very different construction techniques and materials. They need to because their hulls are hitting things (waves, etc.) at much higher velocities and have to be able to withstand that kind of abuse. So even if you attain your goal of 100 MPH on relatively flat water, beware running that boat hard in bigger water. It may just come apart around you and your passengers.

Good luck with your project!

;) I thought its a cool boat. But this news? Is not a whole lot different than the hundreds of projects anyone can follow on this site.

X2, this is a much better way of saying what I meant. Good luck villain!

I can remember back when I was ordering parts to build my SBC some of the vendors here thought I was crazy because everyone that was anyone built BBC for boats . Oh how times have changed . As long as your thinking doesn't conform to conventional wisdom people will be quick to judge and throw stones , mia culpa . Good luck , have fun and most of all be safe . Life is short so we've got to do the things that make us happy .

Is this "news?" No, this is a project story. Speedonthewater.com does a lot of news stories. News, by definition, has a different set of criteria.

Yes, there are hundreds of projects out there, so many that one site cannot possibly follow all of them. At present, speedonthewater is following a number of different project stories at various levels. But I would gently ask you: What other web site is trying to follow even a few of them? I'm not talking about an offshoreonly member posting about his own project, which is very cool and worthwhile. I'm talking about a a news and feature site including some project coverage. That we can't possibly cover "hundreds" of them does not diminish the significance of those we do.

Obviously, the project is of little to no informational value to you. Fair enough, but keep in mind the key words—to you. A lot of people like it, a lot of people don't, which in a way makes it a perfect project story. From a journalistic standpoint, I like this story because it is as grassroots as it gets.

If you have a project you'd like us to cover, we're not exactly hard to reach and we're good about returning phone calls and emails. Feel free to contact us here or through the speedonthewater.com site.

The strength of the Hull is not a problem with the older Chaparral boats. They were not lightweights. Construction of them was second to none. The Deep V hulls the were made from is still copied to this day, they were cutting edge for their time. I know mine weighs in at a stout 5200 lbs, construction of these was not spared. Very well built boats in the time they were built. Almost every inch of this this boat is 1.5" thick. and nothing seems to flex on it. The older Chap boats are no joke, and stand up to the test of quality. Very few VillainIII were built, they were pretty pricey in the day. And are very sought after to this day.

Good luck, cool project. Buddy had the same boat, and ran 64 and some change on the GPS with 3 of us ( all 225lbs, and a full big igloo cooler) Boat was fairly stable as well, seemed to be built well.

John jr

So true, those new ones are gonna bring every dollar someone spent on it back when sold.:party-smiley-004::whistle:

We need all the coverage boats can get Matt, and you do a fantastic job of creating interesting topics. The things learned from projects such as this can make people wonder about their own, or even decide it's not their thing. But the only way to find out is to read about it, or venture into the dark world of the unknown.

I'm following this project only because you have decided to cover it. I know I will Never do such a project myself, but I enjoy reading about it. The world is a big place. Boating is quite vast in the differences between hull styles, mission and purpose. People of all boating preferences benefit from reading all kinds of articles about boats in general, and projects like this are not covered hardly at all.

I like it to people that read Popular Mechanics articles, maybe even read about fast cars they will never own. But boating is pretty special, because each type of boat has a purpose of some sort, and you never know what might interest you as being Cool. It's always fun to read about something new and interesting, especially when an everyday guy is doing it. People on this site should be interested, as it specifically relates to speed and modifications. And mostly, because it involves a boater showing something he would like to do.

Who cares what the $$$ cost to make X boat go X speed. Thats what it is all about. some of you guys are _______________________ :drink:


John jr

Matt, speedonthe water has some GREAT stories. This one just seemed slightly different to me. Keep up the good work

Got to agree with you on that, the story is different. You could even call it odd. I know stuff like this happens all the time but it doesn't come across our radar very often.

In my desire to explain I came on a bit strong. Sorry for that. It wasn't my intention but as I reread what I wrote I see it as strident and defensive. Not exactly a great tone to take with a reader.

Again, sorry about that. And thanks for the kind words.

Great to see a redo of an old boat. Just think 100mph with that boat is a reach unless you have a big HP motor and then you will need a shortened/raised x, stronger drive. Good luck with the project though.

Get it done and come to the shootout in LOTO!

These guys did it in sweden with a similar size boat. Check the you tube vids in the thread :)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...ph-mark-7.html

running bravo setup with a high X dimension we will see what happens.

if shes floating by then i will try.

i dont know what that boat weighs fully rigged but they are making more hp then me. my only advantage will be the SBC is about 400lbs less give or take heads etc... that is a sharp looking boat!

:bong:

Way to think outside the box 88Villainii, love it. Good luck with the project

Scotty B