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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3944702)
What would be consequence for an American who got a Canadian side ticket and just didn't pay it?
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Originally Posted by JRider
(Post 3944715)
They will tell your Mum, Ehh!!!
http://www.cdncs.com/boating-on-the-border.html |
I feel bad for you guys that came up and got a bad taste of the area. It is usually not too bad. That being said I also NEVER travel the American Narrows and usually head down the Canadian side and have never had a problem. Sounds like things were a little stepped up for the weekend
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Same problem on our lake for the pirates run in upstate ny , hardly ever see them patrol lake maybe 1 boat , advertise a poker run i see 3 different boats running around all day pulling people over. Bait and tackle = Profits for the county.
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Originally Posted by kragar
(Post 3944720)
The Canadian guys aren't quite as nice when you enter into our waters. Terrible!! and I am Canadian
http://www.cdncs.com/boating-on-the-border.html |
We were pulling out of Swan Bay as hugetime1 was passing under the bridge. Saw you get pulled over then a second boat right after that. I was wondering why as it didn't look like either boat was going that fast(love you boat hugetime1, cat with outboards!!). They were definitely out in force. This Poker run is focused around Alex Bay and brings business to all the local retailers, hotels and bars. Heck, look what Aqua-Mania does for promoting the run. Boating is what the 1000 Islands is all about, why so much harassment? I never see this during bike week when the town is over run with bikes and the bars are full. I don't hear about the bikes getting pulled over for being to loud and they are driving right through town and neighborhoods.
I have been boating in the Islands for almost 50 years now. Can't tell you how many times we have been pulled over. Most of the time for no reason other than they were training cadets. A few years ago I was stopped while returning from Clayton in open water with my wife and 2 young kids. They asked if they could board my vessel for a safety inspection. I pointed out that I had gotten a Safety inspection that year from the Coast Guard Aux. and was told "That doesn't mean anything!" They held us up for over an hour bobbing around in the channel just to do an inspection. I was pissed. |
Nascat, do you mind if i post the video?
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Originally Posted by 4bus
(Post 3944531)
No question some of the richest people in th world have homes on private islands in the area. Always amazes me to find out the business owners and inventors that have vacation homes in the area.
Performance boats are and always will be the minority. And the fact that we fill the bars until 2 am doesn't seem to have much pull in any argument. |
I don't have the correct temperment t to deal with Alex Bay LEOs. I think I will stay away. There are many other places to visit.
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Like I said before some of it is self inflicted.
There have been some azz hole moves in that neighbourhood. Plus there is the $$$$$ people there that don't like go fast boats. It's not as if all the complainers bought their cottages down there with their own money. Most of them are livin the gold life at grandpas spread. You can see it when you go on a poker run there. The farther east you go the better the go fast boats are received. In Brockville where real people live the crowds are 10 deep. Not so in the Boldt Castle area. |
What are your legal obligations for request for boarding or random equipment inspections. These people are way beyond what any fair minded person would say is for public boating safety. I get pulled over multiple times a year for a general Q&A session and im tired of it. Do they need probable cause for vessel boarding and inspection?
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Huge- What video??
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Originally Posted by Catastrophe
(Post 3944976)
Like I said before some of it is self inflicted.
There have been some azz hole moves in that neighbourhood. Plus there is the $$$$$ people there that don't like go fast boats. It's not as if all the complainers bought their cottages down there with their own money. Most of them are livin the gold life at grandpas spread. You can see it when you go on a poker run there. The farther east you go the better the go fast boats are received. In Brockville where real people live the crowds are 10 deep. Not so in the Boldt Castle area. |
Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 3945004)
What are your legal obligations for request for boarding or random equipment inspections. These people are way beyond what any fair minded person would say is for public boating safety. I get pulled over multiple times a year for a general Q&A session and im tired of it. Do they need probable cause for vessel boarding and inspection?
I didn't get boarded. He said he was gonna come on, and I said "no your not" when he asked why I told him boat is paint and clear and asked him if he would like me to walk on the hood of his car or his white leather couch in his house with my boots on. He stayed off the boat, but gave me two tickets lol. I use the same excuse for tying up to me, and usually it works. But this guy tied up anyway, and tied up wrong. His black rub rail got my white one covered in black marks, and his fender scuffed me lightly. He tied the front right and rear loose. I considered calling in a claim on them, but I go there often and don't need the crap. |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3944702)
What would be consequence for an American who got a Canadian side ticket and just didn't pay it?
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ok folks, here is the whole story from start to finish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgXYevWFBQ |
better get your numbers fixed!!! they arent contrasting enough... i cant read them from way up here in my floating bathtub while im wearing my Eric Estrada sunglasses
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Lol they made you blow your whistle wtf
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Originally Posted by hugetime1
(Post 3945159)
ok folks, here is the whole story from start to finish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgXYevWFBQ I love the comment saying "I should have just not stopped" lol but your passenger was right no sense in hiding all weekend. |
I like when i had to explain why i was not wearing a coast guard approved vest. I said my life line looked thin and not very safe.....wtf
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is that an antenna??? no jacka$$ its a go pro.... yes you are on video right now.... do these guys live under a rock?? they dont know what a go pro is???
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Originally Posted by 88bullet
(Post 3945486)
is that an antenna??? no jacka$$ its a go pro.... yes you are on video right now.... do these guys live under a rock?? they dont know what a go pro is???
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should have told them it was a radar detector
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Lots of good pics of the run are up on Full Speed Photography's Facebook page.
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Radar jammer
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It was my first year going up for the Poker run weekend, and I had a really good time, met lots of great people. I usually go Labor Day and rarely see any sort of law enforcement, part of my reason for boating there instead of Arizona where I live. I hope you all keep going up, because it sucks that right when I try something new, it goes away.
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Originally Posted by vettex1
(Post 3944660)
We're heading in August for the Kingston Run, just to watch though. Are these areas marked so you know what speed limit you should be obeying?
Not sure how excited I am anymore to spend 5-days up there and get harassed. |
Originally Posted by hugetime1
(Post 3945159)
ok folks, here is the whole story from start to finish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgXYevWFBQ I think you were gonna get the ticket as soon as you said you didn't have your registration since it "blew out of the boat last week" :picard1:. They then had to call in your numbers,etc and since they had gone that far, you were cooked. If you had everything in order, you might have gotten a warning like the other guy. I wonder what would have happened if you never slowed down at all from the lighthouse and just kept going. Would you have even known to stop or that they were even behind you as they wouldn't have been able to catch up to you. You shouldn't be looking backwards if your going 60+ or so mph since that would be considered "unsafe" :D |
Originally Posted by drejustice
(Post 3945542)
I think you were gonna get the ticket as soon as you said you didn't have your registration since it "blew out of the boat last week" :picard1:. They then had to call in your numbers,etc and since they had gone that far, you were cooked. I agree, I generally get most lucky when I'm prepped and polite. But some LEO's don't care and will look for any way to screw a "powerboat" guy.
If you had everything in order, you might have gotten a warning like the other guy. I wonder what would have happened if you never slowed down at all from the lighthouse and just kept going. Would you have even known to stop or that they were even behind you as they wouldn't have been able to catch up to you. You shouldn't be looking backwards if your going 60+ or so mph since that would be considered "unsafe" :D |
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Same county...
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Originally Posted by Donzi ZX
(Post 3945646)
Same county...
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Originally Posted by NASCAT
(Post 3944150)
We got stopped between the lighthouses but told them we were following Hugetime who told us the speed limit was 45mph so we negotiated ourselves a warning!
My 1st trip to the bay, always heard good things about the area & the run. I didn't participate in the run just took advantage of the timing to make sure my boat was in tip top shape since I had it brought there to be sold. IMO from the outside looking in & having participated in many other non-PRA events I felt as if th $650 entry was steep & even steeper based on the fact there wasn't any helicopter for pics or video. The sad part is that between the marine police & City of Alex Bay they so don't get the big picture of the $$$ & business the PR brings to town. Instead they prefer to rule w/ their guns & badges, leaving a bad experience for those of us who haven't been before. I guess the BIG Q's is did you sell the Skater? Dean |
Sorry to have to read some of these posts ... :(
If you care to take a look at this event it seems to be the best bang for the buck, and you get to run in the open lake (weather permitting) where to my knowledge no one seems to have been hassled in the past for any of the above reasons... See this thread for the Buffalo Poker Run : http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...-9th-10th.html |
Originally Posted by hugetime1
(Post 3945159)
ok folks, here is the whole story from start to finish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgXYevWFBQ Huge just watched File 0426, the run back from Brockville to the Bay. I was in Holy Cow with Kelly running with you from the cross over back to ABay. You my friend have one big pair!!! Could not believe what you put that boat thru. If you are ever up in the area look me up, I would die for a rip in that boat!!! |
Originally Posted by RaggedEdge
(Post 3945826)
Huge just watched File 0426, the run back from Brockville to the Bay. I was in Holy Cow with Kelly running with you from the cross over back to ABay.
You my friend have one big pair!!! Could not believe what you put that boat thru. If you are ever up in the area look me up, I would die for a rip in that boat!!! |
Originally Posted by 88bullet
(Post 3943718)
i think i saw you get your ticket. were you heading north towards alex bay just about to go under the bridge?? i was heading towards clayton right after i got pulled over by STARSKY and HUTCH and given a loud exhaust award. oh and i got another ticket for a 100lb kid not wearing a child life jacket rated for 90lbs. and i got another ticket for my registered in NY til september of 2013 boat i just bought(which im still waiting for a lien release on) being "unregistered" since i am not the one it is still registered to. then when we went to bolt castle to take a tour we were greeted by customs drilling us like we were a bunch of drug smugglers. got right in my face like i was a criminal " where were you today" what do you have on board" how much have you been drinking"
i must say the poker run was very nice. it was great to meet some new faces to put with the screen names. check out some awesome boats. but to be totally honest for the money we spent to go there, fueling up at the local gas station, buying booze at the local liquor store, 6 rooms at the edgewood resort, breakfast, lunch , and dinner at the local resturants, paying for dockage at the hotel. Even tho we did not enter the run which was just simply cus an extra grand wasnt something i could swing this weekend. I am not in a hurry to go back. the local COWBOYS really pissed on my expensive to me weekend. and everywhere i looked someone else minding their own business was getting pulled over. it felt like just because we had a go fast boat up there for the poker run weekend it was a trap for the local law enforcement to make a paycheck. i felt i supported the local alex bay economy as best i could without the local authorities sticking it up my a$$. |
Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 3945004)
What are your legal obligations for request for boarding or random equipment inspections. These people are way beyond what any fair minded person would say is for public boating safety. I get pulled over multiple times a year for a general Q&A session and im tired of it. Do they need probable cause for vessel boarding and inspection?
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Originally Posted by soldier4402
(Post 3946027)
none because they can do a safety check without probably cause. Once your stopped and find no life jacket on a kid, or missing reg, you just sealed your fate
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Originally Posted by NASCAT
(Post 3946030)
I believe you can deny the locals if you are USCG Documented. Pulling that card probably goes over like a lead balloon!
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