Lake Cumberland and the Blame Game
09-10-2013 | 08:47 PM
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You would think that GATORONE would post these videos that he has to help clear his name if he didn't do anything wrong. Just sayin'.
Also, engineering a boat with a set of quick release vents in the tunnel or a canard would not be that hard or expensive. The logic found in an iPhone is far more advanced than a system previously described in this thread would necessitate. We expect our engine builders to make our engines live through just about anything. Why not our hull manufactures? Aside from many other things mentioned here, safety equipment really should be an issue worth looking into with any boat that runs over 130MPH. This needs be evaluated by all that choose to put on and participate in a poker run. I raced on dirt for years and because of that experience now have a new outlook on safety. I cannot fathom driving an open cockpit boat without any equipment and only only a lanyard and a life jacket as my only safety equipment on board between me and St. Peter.
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Also, engineering a boat with a set of quick release vents in the tunnel or a canard would not be that hard or expensive. The logic found in an iPhone is far more advanced than a system previously described in this thread would necessitate. We expect our engine builders to make our engines live through just about anything. Why not our hull manufactures? Aside from many other things mentioned here, safety equipment really should be an issue worth looking into with any boat that runs over 130MPH. This needs be evaluated by all that choose to put on and participate in a poker run. I raced on dirt for years and because of that experience now have a new outlook on safety. I cannot fathom driving an open cockpit boat without any equipment and only only a lanyard and a life jacket as my only safety equipment on board between me and St. Peter.
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09-10-2013 | 08:47 PM
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videos like this make me sick ... this is exactly why accidents really isnt a accident . its called stupidity .. just saying ..
09-10-2013 | 08:47 PM
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I am curious about what safety requirements Brad and Jeff had on? Did the have 5 point harnesses on? Is that a requirement at those speeds. We shouldn't treat the safety of this sport any different then safety of other sports. On the 1/4 mile the faster you go the more safety you need, helmet, 5 point harness, roll cage etc etc. My question is was there any safety measures that they could have taking so that they could of walked away. I mean come on 43 stock cars going over 200 miles an hour and they walk away, top fuel and they walk away, these cats should be no different.
I love the sport, we all make bad decisions in life. I'd hate to see speed limits. Boyne Thunder had Marshall boats that were flagged and there job was to warn everyday boaters that might not know what's going on. Does LCPR have these. I believe there mostly volunteers.
I love the sport, we all make bad decisions in life. I'd hate to see speed limits. Boyne Thunder had Marshall boats that were flagged and there job was to warn everyday boaters that might not know what's going on. Does LCPR have these. I believe there mostly volunteers.
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09-10-2013 | 08:50 PM
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Am I the only one here that finds it ridiculous that these boats run way faster on OPEN public water than an actual RACE boat in controlled conditions? The two gentlemen that parished could have easily been only two of the six that boat could hold.
09-10-2013 | 08:51 PM
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I was wondering if a gyro could be used to keep the boat from kiting? I don't have any experience with them, but if they are used to keeps big boats from rocking so bad perhaps they could be used as a 'kiting' prevention.
And another thing, Drag car parachutes pulling a shroud to decrease full deployment and/or a compressed air blast blast to blow it out. Drag chutes are less than $500. I find it hard to believe that this couldnt be a cost effective solution. Initially, it could be manual. But, I am 99% confident that they have a cheap gyroscope that would deploy the chute under pre-programmed conditions under $1000. On $500K+++ boats this would be less money than the GPS's in the dash and it would save your life.
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There, I've laid it out for you.... PM me to get an address to send me royalty checks...
09-10-2013 | 08:51 PM
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I have been boating & poker running on LC since I relocated here in 1998, and many years of experience previously, not just on Cumberland. While I didn't know Kevin, Brad or Jeff I do know that both runs on Lake Cumberland are managed, overseen, thought-out and governed by persons that are competent and knowledgeable about the "poker-run" scene, I know these persons personally. While it is truly unfortunate that a loss of life has happened it is none the less inevitable with this sport. Yes it is a sport. The organizers are not personally responsible for this tragic loss of life. The Coast Guard was on the water, a heavy presence of F&W was on the water and to me it was apperant that they made every attempt to keep some of the local idiots out of the way. They just cant do it all, there will always be someone that interferes on purpose or inadvertanetly. The Cruiser we all see in the video was IMO to close to the course, F&W missed them, or they moved closer after a F&W patrol passed. These things we cannot control. Stupidity and inexperience go hand in hand. Kevin, Brad and Jeff all had the right to run as fast as they wanted and felt comfortable with. They are gone but not forgotten, we all must realize that this is a dangerous sport/activity, we all love it and desire to not see it regulated out of existence. I don't see any reason why this event like all others like it will not come back next year. If I have any voice in the matter then it will stay.
Local idiots?
So when a bunch of out of towers show up... I can't go boat on my own lake... where I choose? ( if I lived there)
09-10-2013 | 08:54 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZdPk9Mgzw. There was a boat that crossed decently close to them
09-10-2013 | 08:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvZdPk9Mgzw. There was a boat that crossed decently close to them
09-10-2013 | 08:59 PM
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I don't know the right answer. If you watch the video of them going by the yellow boat at 10 seconds there is a boat in the middle of the lake. Not sure why it's there spectator or participant with problems and not defending there choice to get that close to boats that appear to be anchored watching. At a half a century old and raced motorcycles and cars and boats in my life. I know I have made split second decsions that were wrong in the heat of battle and I was not about to let off the gas and let some one pass me. Boys will be boys no matter if it's a RC car race or a million dollar boat they want to win. I know it's not a race but something competitive just takes over your brain and you do not think clearly . I know I have been there and thought later what the hell was I doing. It took one bad deal in 2004 before I really started thinking.
