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Nate5.0 02-20-2014 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4078299)
I think he was trying to show that the CC's weren't the first to the dock.......as the faster boats usually are.

I would file that as common sense. I also would say that was not his point..... His point was more of "look what boats aren't at the first stop".

Don't need to be first. I have friends with boats in that pic I will gladly pay for gas for if that's my desire. I am fine with comfort and middle of the pack.

low_psi 02-20-2014 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4078301)
Yeah but didn't you admit a few pages back that you just bought this boat and haven't used it much? How about filling the tanks, go for 100 mile run, get back to the dock and refuel then do some math......Your post is very similar to the guys with diesel pickups sitting on 22.5's, with tons of performance mods and they brag they get 22-25 in city driving pulling a 10K trailer! :D..............I suspect they can't do simple math! :D :D

I haven't used it at all. It is 2000 with 2006 motors. The previous owner had it for close to two years, so I am pretty sure he had enuff wheel time to get an approximation on fuel usage. I am going off of the previous owners info and another concept owners who boats on the same water as I do and is on this board. I don't understand why it is so hard to believe a boat with efficient outboards that only weighs 4800lbs can get good fuel economy. I guess it's easy to be skeptical.

pstorti 02-20-2014 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4078247)
If I am building a CC while like the I/O feature I really want the O/B in the shallows around the islands.

I get around the shallows in the bahamas just fine with my bravos. I can run in 18" of water no problem as long as I keep the speed up and trim up a little. At idle I need about 28" but the hull hits before the drives.

pstorti 02-20-2014 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4078310)
I haven't used it at all. It is 2000 with 2006 motors. The previous owner had it for close to two years, so I am pretty sure he had enuff wheel time to get an approximation on fuel usage. I am going off of the previous owners info and another concept owners who boats on the same water as I do and is on this board. I don't understand why it is so hard to believe a boat with efficient outboards that only weighs 4800lbs can get good fuel economy. I guess it's easy to be skeptical.

Nobody is trying to be a jerk here but look at the numbers for yourself on http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines...sts/outboards/
The single engine bass boats get 4mpg, can you get 3 mpg in the right conditions maybe and yes that is great for outboards but it is a long way from 4 mpg.
Your boat was tested but they only show the speeds but you can look at the fuel burn on the other tests at 3000 and 4000 rpm and get 10-12gph at 3000 and 17-20gph at 4000, that gets you 2.6-2.8 somewhere in that range. If you are really doing much better good for you that is great but unless you have smart craft or something else giving you gph and a gps you really don't know.

Crude Intentions 02-20-2014 11:18 PM

The shallow water thing has me confused. Unless your on a jack plate an outboard lower unit is very similar to an outdrive lower unit. You can trim an outdrive up in shallow water also. Outboards on a jack plate or not and outdrives will generally trim up above the hull bottom anyway so your still limited by the v bottom.

For the room I understand. Cleaning is about the same as both have vinyl and fiberglass to clean. The biggest difference in cleaning would be in the engine room and I get that.

ICDEDPPL 02-20-2014 11:55 PM

So let me get this straight ... 0 time on the boat but the guy who was trying to tell sell you a boat told you 4mpg so then it must be true.
Oh man there`s one born every minute:lolhit:

btw, "how many did you catch today"

tommymonza 02-20-2014 11:55 PM

Center Councils are for LOOSERS, WTF

low_psi 02-21-2014 12:10 AM

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low_psi 02-21-2014 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4078361)
Center Councils are for LOOSERS, WTF

Real intelligent. Great spelling.

SnailblazerSS 02-21-2014 06:01 AM

I love how butthurt everyone is on both "sides" of the debate. It's a boat, get over it. For some, a center console is a lot better fit than a good ol' go-fast. It's as simple as that.

Nate5.0 02-21-2014 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4078361)
Center Councils are for LOOSERS, WTF

Your stance reasons behind why are so stunning and profound that I have now changed my mind about them.

Thank you wise and well informed one. Whatever would be do without your irreplaceable input

Nate5.0 02-21-2014 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4078356)
The shallow water thing has me confused. Unless your on a jack plate an outboard lower unit is very similar to an outdrive lower unit. You can trim an outdrive up in shallow water also. Outboards on a jack plate or not and outdrives will generally trim up above the hull bottom anyway so your still limited by the v bottom.

For the room I understand. Cleaning is about the same as both have vinyl and fiberglass to clean. The biggest difference in cleaning would be in the engine room and I get that.

The extra rear weight on a boat like mine causes a not so shallow draft. The paint on the skegs is all scuffed already with only a few trips so far. That is with the drives trimmed way up.

Unless you have a quad motor set up the weight saving alone is enough to help get up buy the island area.

I would say my draft at idle is 30" area and that is being nice. With a twin engine trimmed up outboard I am more in the 18" area and that is how a Lot of the island areas are.

ActiveThunder 02-21-2014 07:08 AM

I did in the late 90s. Hated them. So, no. Sorry.


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4078294)
Pat would you build a cc ??


ActiveThunder 02-21-2014 07:10 AM

Yeah, I see them. Over there with the fishing fleet. :party-smiley-004:


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4078272)
There are at least five in the pic, what was your point?


Indy 02-21-2014 07:28 AM

My next boat will be a CC without question. Reasons are pretty straight forward for me; no more crawling around the bilge, no more bravo issues, no more giant fuel bills, ease of maintenance, more room for guests.


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4077889)
Oh just to be clear, as for boating down here I don't have the time anymore, becuase of the low Florida wages all I have time to do is work

And the #1 reason is time like Wildman stated...time! In this economy, production has been increased but the personnel hasn't. Companies are sqeezing every last drop out of their employees because all expenses have been reduced and there's nowhere else to go ...I see it everywhere. I work 6-7 days a week now just to get by, my wife is putting in 80 hour weeks (gawd). Most of my friends & family members are in the same situation. I'm boatless right now but I have to wonder how much time I'd really have in this new world to go boating.

314joey 02-21-2014 07:34 AM

Let me put "MY OPINION" in a complete different perspective on anything I like or want, whether it be a car, boat clothes or anything else, not that anyone should care and that's cool, but I don't care what anyone else likes or wants, thanks for all the helpful comments though, carry on with the normal OSO banter.

Dahm, I'll never be able to go on a FPC PR, guess I'll cross that off my bucket list.

Crude Intentions 02-21-2014 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4078433)
Let me put "MY OPINION" in a complete different perspective on anything I like or want, whether it be a car, boat clothes or anything else, not that anyone should care and that's cool, but I don't care what anyone else likes or wants, thanks for all the helpful comments though, carry on with the normal OSO banter.

Dahm, I'll never be able to go on a FPC PR, guess I'll cross that off my bucket list.

Too funny Jim. Ill never go on one of thier runs no matter what I own!! I'd rather go hang out with all the fishing boats in fmo!! Lol.

pstorti 02-21-2014 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4078361)
Center Councils are for LOOSERS, WTF

pretty sure this is a joke

Wildman_grafix 02-21-2014 07:49 AM

All we need now is a Fountain CC versus everyone else!

Crude Intentions 02-21-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4078445)
All we need now is a Fountain CC versus everyone else!

Why, wouldn't fountain win? Of course the 31 is only like a 23 foot boat I'm sure!!

ICDEDPPL 02-21-2014 08:51 AM

Joey , you forgot to tell us how horribly unhappy we must all be if we don`t share your C.C. enthusiasm
!
:fear:


Anyway,
I got a question, do snailboaters hate fisherman as much as powerboaters? If not then CC owners could tottally hang out at the dock sipping wine and enjoying some cheese and crackers and wind stories.

314joey 02-21-2014 09:11 AM

A couple pf pics I thought I'd share from the Miami run the other day.

Nate5.0 02-21-2014 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4078467)
Joey , you forgot to tell us how horribly unhappy we must all be if we don`t share your C.C. enthusiasm
!
:fear:


Anyway,
I got a question, do snailboaters hate fisherman as much as powerboaters? If not then CC owners could tottally hang out at the dock sipping wine and enjoying some cheese and crackers and wind stories.


Some cheese and wine does sound good now that you speak of it. Is 10:30am too early?

Nate5.0 02-21-2014 09:35 AM

Those are not from the run....CC's can't do poker runs. Stop trying to pull wool over Our eyes

314joey 02-21-2014 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4078494)
Those are not from the run....CC's can't do poker runs. Stop trying to pull wool over Our eyes

My bad, I'm busted, who would have thought a CC could do a fun or poker run, somebody better tell Randy Scism he's wasting his time and money.

Speedracer29 02-21-2014 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4078498)
My bad, I'm busted, who would have thought a CC could do a fun or poker run, somebody better tell Randy Scism he's wasting his time and money.

Lol! I don't care how much people claim they hate CC's, if an MTI SV42 magically showed up in their slip or driveway, you can bet most of the haters would be firing it up and hitting the water.



SIDE NOTE- if Randy is reading this, I absolutely DESPISE Center Consoles, and wouldn't run one if it was given to me! Especially if it was the black/orange/white SV 42. Blech! I'll send an E-mail shortly with a shipping address to prove my point!
(Anybody know how to disconnect hour meters?)

ealesh33 02-21-2014 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4078477)
A couple pf pics I thought I'd share from the Miami run the other day.

Those are bad ass in my opinion.

Interceptor 02-21-2014 03:33 PM

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With stern drives !


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4078445)
All we need now is a Fountain CC versus everyone else!


Interceptor 02-21-2014 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4078494)
Those are not from the run....CC's can't do poker runs. Stop trying to pull wool over Our eyes

That's true. The C.C. boats are usually running far offshore while the poker runners slide along inshore ( fun smiley thing here !).
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Wildman_grafix 02-21-2014 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4078651)
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With stern drives !

That looks easy to clean,,,,,,,,,,,,,

tommymonza 02-21-2014 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 4078444)
pretty sure this is a joke

dING DANG we have a WEINER ty

Interceptor 02-21-2014 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4078657)
That looks easy to clean,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I can have it ready to wash in 5 minutes. Then it's a bucket of water/soap, soft brush and hose EVERYTHING off ! Deck has scuppers.

bill63 02-21-2014 04:18 PM

Well I am dumb enough to have both 42 Fountain and 39 Nortech CC and the CC wins hands down even with poker runs. BTW the Fountain is for sale.

Knot 4 Me 02-21-2014 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4078467)
Joey , you forgot to tell us how horribly unhappy we must all be if we don`t share your C.C. enthusiasm
!
:fear:


Anyway,
I got a question, do snailboaters hate fisherman as much as powerboaters? If not then CC owners could tottally hang out at the dock sipping wine and enjoying some cheese and crackers and wind stories.

I think I can speak for everyone here that we all share enthusiasm for your avatar.

ICDEDPPL 02-21-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4078477)
A couple pf pics I thought I'd share from the Miami run the other day.

I gotta say those are pretty sweet!, nice seating!
For folks that don`t overnight thats a winner.

ok back to being angry..





Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4078671)
I think I can speak for everyone here that we all share enthusiasm for your avatar.


Don`t twist your neck!
:D

314joey 02-21-2014 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Speedracer29 (Post 4078511)
Lol! I don't care how much people claim they hate CC's, if an MTI SV42 magically showed up in their slip or driveway, you can bet most of the haters would be firing it up and hitting the water.)

When people (haters) can't get you to think like them, all they can do is attack, seems like lots of cool CCs out on the water now, even on the Miami poker run and they're looking good.

Great pic that jayboat took the other day, nice shot.

nailit 02-21-2014 06:49 PM

I actually almost bought a scarab 302 sport with 2x 300XS's. Had finally decided to put offer in over the weekend and on Sunday wife finally started looking at pics and really wanted sunpad. I would have loved it with those engines, but ended up with our 33ol had all the same options we wanted and we love it. Twins, cockpit space for kids to walk around, length to run smoother in gulf, enclosed head..

314joey 02-25-2014 03:56 PM

Just some pics of a few more CCs looking good this past week.

ealesh33 02-25-2014 07:40 PM

I would 100% own one, but don't think that one I would like I could afford lol

ealesh33 02-25-2014 07:40 PM

I would 100% own one, but don't think that one I would like I could afford lol


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