That thing is awesome. What great things were you hoping to hear?

BIG SPEED #S
but it was never run to its potential from what i understand ...
there was a video of it running to 160 but my old cpu crashed and i lost it

i would think IMHO it would run 180 +

Thanks for the pics, still love it. I am sure it would be a 180 boat if set up properly.
Precision, there is little to no difference in the speed of that boat with the top on or off. definetely not 10 mph. The way these interiors and windshields set up there is almost no wind buffeting in the cockpit.

As far as ride and speed go, the 36 and 40 are going to be VERY close. I doubt there is any difference in speed. The 40 will ride slightly better. There isn't as much difference in the lengths as you would think because the 36 has a cut down deck which shortens the boat but not the running surface.

44Mti- in all cases it might not be 10 mph, but you can't argue that the aero isn't better.

180 sounds right

so the 36 is just a cut down 40....... same cockpit , just hacked the nose ?????

No, it does have a shorter running surface also, 2' I think but can't remember for sure. He took what is now called a 40, which used to be a 39, and cut the deck down in the front and shortened the running surface to get to 36. Randy basically built this boat for Havazoo. He was told there was a length restriction of 36' to go up and down the channel there, so he built the 36 to be legal there. Yes it still has the same cockpit as all the MTI's of that era. Obviously the new 38 has the new G5 cockpit.

good to know thank you..... does mti offer the g5 cockpit for all there models ???

Yes they do, I think pretty much everything built in the last yr or so has the new G5 cockpit. And the bigger boats,48, & 52 also have a new option which is very similar to the G5 except wider, longer and a more rounded windshield but it would be to wide for a 10'6" boat. All of these are now pretty much standard on a new boat, however Randy will build you what ever you want.

[QUOTE=44MTI;4079906]Yes they do, I think pretty much everything built in the last yr or so has the new G5 cockpit. And the bigger boats,48, & 52 also have a new option which is very similar to the G5 except wider, longer and a more rounded windshield but it would be to wide for a 10'6" boat. All of these are now pretty much standard on a new boat, however Randy will build you what ever you want.[/QU

do you have any info about the NEW 2015 42 WIDE BODY ????

Never heard of a length restriction at Havasu

Just throwing this out there ...I no bills son (my way) has an mti and for the life of me I can't remember if it is the 40 or 44, anyways he running 1100turbo mercs and the best hes seen is 154 on fumes

in the old days nothing over 36 feet in the channel under the London bridge where everyone hangs out they did away with it a few years ago but there was good reason for it...... drunk idiots . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgL_z_Z6BRo

[QUOTE=NO REGRET$;4079924]They have built at least 2, One went to Ritchie Prince in N.O., the other went to some football player in the Houston area, that has since been tranfered. His was called Big BaD Wolf I believe. It is basically a 44 that the tunnel has been widened 6 inches, hence the 446 model name. Both boats had 1350's. Ritchie is a friend so I know he is very happy with his, I don't think he has topped it out yet, but he has certainly seen some very good numbers with a good load on board.

Pretty sure Tomlinson's is a 40.

From experience, I can tell you first hand that a couple of 39's with 1100hp have run just shy of 165 and a 40 w/ 1075's that would do the same and a lil better. You just need the correct setup, and a big enough lake. Not everyone cares to give up that bottom end for the big #.

They probably finally realized that you can't fix stupid!!

Full of fuel, six people, all the beverages and gear. 145 all day long for me.

[QUOTE=44MTI;4079861]Thanks for the pics, still love it. I am sure it would be a 180 boat if set up properly.
Precision, there is little to no difference in the speed of that boat with the top on or off. definetely not 10 mph. The way these interiors and windshields set up there is almost no wind buffeting in the cockpit


here is the 40 video

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=3&theater

Ya right!! Any canopy boat is gonna have better aero!! Period, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. I don't care if its a MTI, Skater, OL, or whatever... Come on common sense. Any boat at those speeds will have some wind on the back seat, and at those speeds it makes a difference!!! Now that particular MTI, sure it might be better, but I was meaning more of an open boat. Not that certain MTI

Smaller size doesn't always mean faster... The 44-48 is just as fast power for power with the smaller boats just because they have a bigger tunnel and create more lift. They are also much more stable at speed. There is some difference between my 39/40 and Mark's 38 but not much and if I didn't ride in them both a bunch I wouldn't notice. The main thing I think is the weight difference from the better materials now vs. 2006 when my boat was built. His boat is much quicker and but I can get out there and run 150 just about any time right beside him it just takes me a little longer to get there. His setup has 1.42 gears where I am 1.35 and we both spin 38" props. Now you take a bigger boat and they can get out there and run 160-170 all day just because they are bigger and can run through more water.

If it helps, by May I will be able to tell you what a 48 carbon layup G6 interior with 1350's will run. With new mercury 8 drives (1.30 ratio) and a set of props for top end and a small set for daily driving. Should be a grin.

WOW ... congrats on the new ride ... look forward to hearing all the details .... please hit us back

good luck / be safe


PIXS

btw

on the 48 with carbon

what is the weight savings vs normal lamentation schedule ???

Your exactly right on the size not makeing much if any difference in topend, I just didn't want to say it because it might hurt some feelers. The only advantge the smaller boat has is in acceleration because of less weight, do to the size difference. Top end won't really change because the longer tunnel will cary the bigger boat once it gets packing air. The biggest difference is going to be in set up and water condtions. As in your case the gear ration difference and the fact that the 1100's make more torque are big factors for him accelerating faster. 1.42 is a very low gear which gives great acceleration and makes you not notice the difference in load as much, but it will kill topend. I would bet he could turn a 40 pitch pretty easily. Also don't forget about prop rotation, this made 5 mph difference in my 44, as well as a big difference in acceleration and ride. Most people don't care for the ride and sterring with outboard rotation in a smaller ride, but I just couldn't give up the speed/acceleration so thats the way I ran mine most of the time. Just for reference my 44 ran 155 with 1075's and 167 with 1200 computers.

My guess is 170's with good all around props and 180+ with tall props.:boat:

Even 170 in a boat that size with that power is impressive!!

44 MTI- I take it those numbers you have we're with the props turning out?

from what i have read 165 daily driver ...175 to 178 mph light load with top end props .:bestwishes::bestwishes::bestwishes:

So Gino's 1,650 boat???

185-190???

There's gotta be 6-10 mph of skill involved when your running that fast...

Gino has 1350s

boats back at MTI having 1650's installed according to the interview at Miami show ..



Gargiulo said the boat has a set of Mercury Racing 1350 engines in it for display purposes only. The boat will head back to Missouri where MTI will install twin 1650 Race engines and complete a few more things before it's ready to hit the water.

http://speedonthewater.com/new-boats...stage-in-miami

I will bring my GoPro. I have become an expert with Premier Pro editing. I'll make that baby look fast even if it's not. We're not talking some boring ass suction cup look at my rooster tail mount. This is going to be on the extension pole, motor compartment shots, full action footage. Can you embroider "BAM" on my seat headrest. :)

Ohhhh……and a matching Lifeline jacket with BAM on the left breast.. Thank you.

Gino's boat will leave the factory with the 1350s in it… He may do 1650s in the future…

The boats run so well with 1350s that you would really have to "want it" to go with the 1650s… $, race gas, and more maintenance are big factors.

Noone needs to know Ginos setup…but it will certainly run:eekdrop:

so much for what you read in the press..... lol

thanks for the update TIM .... BAD ASS BOAT .... with any power !!!

Yes, Mark G's 38 will pull more propeller without trouble…
We set it up how he requested… It's quite a dragster as he has it set up now.

Anything for a buddy! That pays the bar tab of course...lol

They are estimating around 1000 lbs. Guess we would have to weigh it to know for sure. I'm trying to keep the rigging extra light without giving up all the comforts. It WILL NOT have a huge stereo or any such nonsense. A couple of the seats will be easily removed, etc.
I, too wanted 1650's REAL bad, but hauling fuel by the drum and freshening motors way more often was a trade off I wasn't willing to make. There were other concerns as well, but I think the 1350' will push the rig along just fine.

Tim, since my boat is at MTI right now, why don't you ask randy to throw some 1350's and big gears in her! Have randy take take her for a spin and see what she will do...LOL.
I like my 1100 set up though. Long as I can run with Chad, I'm happy! I like my lil dragster!

chatviper: saw you boat there last week, gotta say its one of my all time favorites! The colors just pop on that boat! They had a few 1350's sitting on the floor, I'm sure they could swap them for a small fee! Lol

Appreciate you saying that!! Thank you!

Maybe i'll get a sneak peak of yours when I pick mine up in a few weeks. If, your new beast is still there!

LOL, a small fee indeed!

Hummmm....... Sorry but my 388 is not for sale....