What makes apache and a few others excel in rough water?

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03-23-2014 | 10:25 PM

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ratman

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Originally Posted by nailit

Had always heard that pad bottoms, like Velocity, we're not good in rough water. Definitely like the efficiency, but those who actually own velocitys say it rides well.

I thought the same thing about straight bottoms, but I would probably have to say that they are more predictable and same rules apply as how to drive. No worries about spinning out!

Also agree about the ballz!! I haven't been out in anything above 2s in the 33ol, but tried running over 50 in the 25ol in 3-4s and it did smooth out a little but had to hold on and catch a big roller and it hit a lil harder! Tiring to do that for long distances. Good ab workout too.

Also been out in 6ft swells and 35-40mph was perfect, jumping in and out of troughs , you couldn't see above next wave and had to try running the troughs, that was nutz!!

watch some of the apache 41 vids on utube... the rougher the water the faster they run... less boat in the water = more speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDV7vHF2G4

03-24-2014 | 06:20 AM

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Too Stroked

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You guys all seem to be missing one other important variable - the driver / throttleman. Even the best hull - without somebody good in the cockpit - is junk in rough water. Most of those (great) Apache videos have a top notch crew in the cockpit.

03-24-2014 | 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ratman

watch some of the apache 41 vids on utube... the rougher the water the faster they run... less boat in the water = more speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDV7vHF2G4

whoa!! I was waiting for the hatch to fly! he was moving and like Too Stroked mentioned... good throttle man!

What is the 3rd guy? navigator??

03-24-2014 | 10:34 AM

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Good vid (my fave) with two different Apache's - same length, same driver + throttle man - and you can see how they run different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqtDcnSUk74

03-24-2014 | 11:45 AM

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Too Stroked

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That Apache Warpath video shows what happens when you get a great crew in a great boat. I love listening to the throttles dance in the audio track. If anybody ever wonders how important a good throttleman is, just look at that video.

03-24-2014 | 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nailit

Had always heard that pad bottoms, like Velocity, we're not good in rough water. Definitely like the efficiency, but those who actually own velocitys say it rides well.

My Velocity wasn't a large boat (260) but with its pad bottom I'd say it handled big water very well. Much better than a lot of boats with a traditional 24* deadrise and better than some larger boats. Steve Stepp designed a hell of a hull.

03-24-2014 | 02:06 PM

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I think with the added length over say a 38' Cig they had introduced more rocker in the bottom, also the strakes seem (never measured) a little wider and % wise do extend further a little more than other boats. I have watched studied many of the 41's and the better boats & crews can run the drives tucked under further than other V-bottoms seem to be able to - that would mean more rocker which added to more boat out of the water. I believe you put that in the hands of a better crew and you get a great running boat.

You guys can't tell me you've never seen an Apache 41 run like SH*T, I've seen a few with inexperienced people at the helm run like crap! I think many forget it's the combination of a little better boat with a lot better crew that made the great videos you all keep posting - my 2 cents...