What makes apache and a few others excel in rough water?
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What makes apache and a few others excel in rough water?
Many treads discuss offshore handling of boats like apache's and a few others.
So what is it? Is it just lay up (strength) and weight? This is not a sh$t stirring thread ;-)
So what is it? Is it just lay up (strength) and weight? This is not a sh$t stirring thread ;-)
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There are 3 things that make a V-bottom better in rough water: length, weight, and deadrise. The more, the better.
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when a performance boat is designed and built by a performance boater you will end up with a boat that performs . . . . when they are built by marketing . . . well . . . you get much of what we have today
personally I think it is a fine balance of everything. Design, material, COG placement, rigging, etc. all done through trial and error. me . . . . I like big heavy straight bottom boats.
personally I think it is a fine balance of everything. Design, material, COG placement, rigging, etc. all done through trial and error. me . . . . I like big heavy straight bottom boats.
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08 OPA Class 1 National Champion
08 Class 1 Geico Triple Crown Champion
08 OPA High Points Champion
10 OPA Class 1 National Champion ( happy now Ed! )
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when a performance boat is designed and built by a performance boater you will end up with a boat that performs . . . . when they are built by marketing . . . well . . . you get much of what we have today
personally I think it is a fine balance of everything. Design, material, COG placement, rigging, etc. all done through trial and error. me . . . . I like big heavy straight bottom boats.
personally I think it is a fine balance of everything. Design, material, COG placement, rigging, etc. all done through trial and error. me . . . . I like big heavy straight bottom boats.
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Deadrise (and beam), Weight, engineered strength (just stiff doesn't mean strong), Length, Center of Gravity, Balance, staggered even helps in a couple ways. Most importantly BALLZ , SKILL, and deep pockets!
For some reason I always thought having a straight V all the way to the back of the boat helps to slice rough water, some boat manufactures still achieve good results with padded bottoms, notched transoms, and steps, but there is no real test data to prove anything just a lot of opinions.
Cool thread though!
For some reason I always thought having a straight V all the way to the back of the boat helps to slice rough water, some boat manufactures still achieve good results with padded bottoms, notched transoms, and steps, but there is no real test data to prove anything just a lot of opinions.
Cool thread though!
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Had always heard that pad bottoms, like Velocity, we're not good in rough water. Definitely like the efficiency, but those who actually own velocitys say it rides well.
I thought the same thing about straight bottoms, but I would probably have to say that they are more predictable and same rules apply as how to drive. No worries about spinning out!
Also agree about the ballz!! I haven't been out in anything above 2s in the 33ol, but tried running over 50 in the 25ol in 3-4s and it did smooth out a little but had to hold on and catch a big roller and it hit a lil harder! Tiring to do that for long distances. Good ab workout too.
Also been out in 6ft swells and 35-40mph was perfect, jumping in and out of troughs , you couldn't see above next wave and had to try running the troughs, that was nutz!!
I thought the same thing about straight bottoms, but I would probably have to say that they are more predictable and same rules apply as how to drive. No worries about spinning out!
Also agree about the ballz!! I haven't been out in anything above 2s in the 33ol, but tried running over 50 in the 25ol in 3-4s and it did smooth out a little but had to hold on and catch a big roller and it hit a lil harder! Tiring to do that for long distances. Good ab workout too.
Also been out in 6ft swells and 35-40mph was perfect, jumping in and out of troughs , you couldn't see above next wave and had to try running the troughs, that was nutz!!