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Originally Posted by boatnt
(Post 4112549)
Sydwayz,,you have always been to voice of safety on OSO and we appreciate that but,
we can all pretty much pick apart any video posted on here,whether its boat related,towing,packing bearings,safety straps,chicks pole dancing,well maybe not that,,lol we have all done stupid $hit over the years,do not tell me you have not done something and latter on think to yourself man that was stupid WTF was I thinking,,I know I have.. I get safety,I have owned a boat way before I had kids,when we had kids the first thing my wife did when they reach the right age is take them to swim lessons,safety jackets? yes all the time while on the boat,could not walk on the pier unless safety jackets were on,and to make it sound cool so they would wear them we called them boat coats, safety is important ,I get it do people sometimes loose their mind and act stupid ?yes..and even safety jackets cant help them at times. the 1st think that would happen with those cheap $10.00 orange jackets at faster speeds that most people have would be to rip off your body,,so at times they could be a false sense of security,so why dont we start a thread and talk about the correct life jackets,,like lf we are going to run hard we should all put on our Lifelines, the guy at the original video was out with his family having fun,,not acting like a jerk, so please stick to the original thread,or I suppose we could spent hours on youtube and post every video of every jack a$$ out there driving a boat. |
Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 4112559)
Why is it that when people suggest the kid in the front be more securely seated or bolstered everyone gets their shorts in a bunch? Nobody is calling this guy reckless or anything, we've all see MUCH worse. But is this really a big deal?
my reply was to something totally different.I know we are on page 15 going round and round the same BS,,but please try to keep up before you call me out,,lol |
The guy in the port bolster looks like the only one not having fun. It's a great video. The kid's smile is priceless. So when will it warm up so that we can go back to asking about how to fix stuff? :) (btw, all those old videos have already been posted and discussed)
Here's another dangerous situation. She could easily slide into the water and bang her head. Nope. Should be properly seated in the boat with a life vest on :) : http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...s467Medium.jpg |
I've got a great picture of someone teaching about 15 of us how to do the line dance to Copperhead Road on the bow of my boat right as the evening dew started falling. Talk about dangerous.....
The two injuries I've had on our boat was a buddy of mine walked up ran into the prop right after I had them redone and got 21 stitches in his knee (we were just anchored out, and i had just warned him that the props were sharp) and then one night my wife went to lasso the front piling, slipped and instinctively grabbed the piling and slid down it like a fireman. She was bloody head to toe after those barnacles tore her up. |
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4112573)
The guy in the port bolster looks like the only one not having fun. It's a great video. The kid's smile is priceless. So when will it warm up so that we can go back to asking about how to fix stuff? :) (btw, all those old videos have already been posted and discussed)
Here's another dangerous situation. She could easily slide into the water and bang her head. Nope. Should be properly seated in the boat with a life vest on :) : http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...s467Medium.jpg |
I really do not understand the motivation of some of the people here who defend this guy again and again. I can only surmise that they either know him personally, or engage in this risky behavior repeatedly themselves. Who cares if he is out having a fun time with his family? We can see that. However, this is no 25 mph cruise around the bay. Judging from the rooster tail, he going well over 60, probably more like 80 or 90.
What happens when people like this do have an accident? The chorus of safety nuts come out in full force, demanding speed limits, horsepower limits, boat size limits, noise limits, and every other limit. All it takes is a bogus public comment period, and a few signatures by local, county or state politicians. Good luck getting those restrictions rescinded. Once it's done, it's done. I have to drive hours and hours now to even get to a lake without a speed limit. The nearest one, hours away, is dried up most of the time. This adolescent attitude of "Nobody is going to tell me what to do", and then having no responsibility, is not going fly. If you want to keep your freedoms, and this high performance boat hobby going, people have to act responsibly. The other adolescent attitude of "It'll never happen to me or anyone in my boat" needs a reality check. 13% of all recreational boating accidents in 2012 resulted in a fatality. If a performance boat is involved, I bet it is a lot higher than that. So argue away if you want, but the people who are defending and engaging in this bad behavior are not doing the hobby any good, and are pushing it to its demise. PFDs and people sitting properly in a boat go a long ways toward showing the public that performance boaters care about safety, in contrast, to the current image of recklessness. Michael |
Jason Johnson summarizes this very well and just happens to be here
http://www.offshoreonly.com/articles...t/play-it-safe |
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Originally Posted by Michael1
(Post 4112634)
I really do not understand the motivation of some of the people here who defend this guy again and again. I can only surmise that they either know him personally, or engage in this risky behavior repeatedly themselves. Who cares if he is out having a fun time with his family? We can see that. However, this is no 25 mph cruise around the bay. Judging from the rooster tail, he going well over 60, probably more like 80 or 90.
What happens when people like this do have an accident? The chorus of safety nuts come out in full force, demanding speed limits, horsepower limits, boat size limits, noise limits, and every other limit. All it takes is a bogus public comment period, and a few signatures by local, county or state politicians. Good luck getting those restrictions rescinded. Once it's done, it's done. I have to drive hours and hours now to even get to a lake without a speed limit. The nearest one, hours away, is dried up most of the time. This adolescent attitude of "Nobody is going to tell me what to do", and then having no responsibility, is not going fly. If you want to keep your freedoms, and this high performance boat hobby going, people have to act responsibly. The other adolescent attitude of "It'll never happen to me or anyone in my boat" needs a reality check. 13% of all recreational boating accidents in 2012 resulted in a fatality. If a performance boat is involved, I bet it is a lot higher than that. So argue away if you want, but the people who are defending and engaging in this bad behavior are not doing the hobby any good, and are pushing it to its demise. PFDs and people sitting properly in a boat go a long ways toward showing the public that performance boaters care about safety, in contrast, to the current image of recklessness. Michael I would do the same. The kid up front is holding on. Sorry many of y'all are to the point of seatbelts in a boat. I'm not. Different situations call for different measures. At idle I let people sit on the hatch. On plane no. See different situation different rule. Calm weather and a nice little blast no biggie. Running amongst others when it's rough at speed different situation. You boat how you want ill boat and defend others how I want. Now chill out |
Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin
(Post 4112638)
I have never met this man and I have no problem with what he did. It's situational boating. It was calm. He might hit a decent speed but didn't maintain it. It was not a poker run. Oh yeah live coastal and run offshore no speed or noise laws there.
I would do the same. The kid up front is holding on. Sorry many of y'all are to the point of seatbelts in a boat. I'm not. Different situations call for different measures. At idle I let people sit on the hatch. On plane no. See different situation different rule. Calm weather and a nice little blast no biggie. Running amongst others when it's rough at speed different situation. You boat how you want ill boat and defend others how I want. Now chill out You don't see anything wrong, Go look at the comments on YouTube, and see if the public agrees with you. They don't. If there is a law, you lose the freedom to choose, no matter what the situation. If the public wants to ban performance boats, offshore or not, they just set laws or just tax them out of existence. All it took was a 10% luxury tax passed by Congress in the early 90's that put over 100 boat builders and related companies out of business. Did you know in Sausalito, CA, it is illegal to launch a personal watercraft from anywhere in the city, including boat ramps? If the government wants to ban performance boats, it will happen. Michael |
Originally Posted by Michael1
(Post 4112644)
Sorry, I'm really not into taking orders.
You don't see anything wrong, Go look at the comments on YouTube, and see if the public agrees with you. They don't. If there is a law, you lose the freedom to choose, no matter what the situation. If the public wants to ban performance boats, offshore or not, they just set laws or just tax them out of existence. All it took was a 10% luxury tax passed by Congress in the early 90's that put over 100 boat builders and related companies out of business. Did you know in Sausalito, CA, it is illegal to launch a personal watercraft from anywhere in the city, including boat ramps? If the government wants to ban performance boats, it will happen. Michael |
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