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low_psi 04-24-2014 04:52 PM

Another irresponsible boater video
 
So I was watching the 43 foot Donzi in the big surf video. After the video was over it pops up a bunch of related videos. I saw one title 95 MPH Donzi Run (or something to that effect). So being bored at work I watched. Come on people, why is commons sense lacking in these guys with big fast powerful boats? So if your wondering what my rant is about..... There is a kid in the back seat who appears to be 10 maybe 11 years old, not wearing a life jacket (problem number one). Second problem, no one is wearing jackets, but this is one of those arguments where I see both sides, so not really what I am ranting about here....... The third problem, I have with this video is the kid standing in between the dash. At these speeds how fast do you think the kid could have ended up with a mouth full of broken teeth, or maybe a broken skull. Maybe I am crazy or over protective, but I would NEVER allow kids of this age to stand in a boat at speed, let alone doing it without a jacket on. Granted the kid in the back is standing in a drop out side bolster seat.. To me this video is another example of high speed poor judgment. Rant Over.....

http://youtu.be/LB7F0JWWXsE

sr73z 04-24-2014 05:04 PM

Yeah they should have jackets on, no doubt. Probably a lanyard too. On another note, that boat sounds bad A$$! Hell of a rooster.

12meter joe 04-24-2014 05:10 PM

Kept waiting for that kid to blow his face out.

Indy 04-24-2014 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by sr73z (Post 4111705)
Yeah they should have jackets on, no doubt. Probably a lanyard too. On another note, that boat sounds bad A$$! Hell of a rooster.

I think he slipped the lanyard on at the beginning of the vid.

Indy 04-24-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 4111708)
Kept waiting for that kid to blow his face out.

That was my thought too.

low_psi 04-24-2014 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4111709)
I think he slipped the lanyard on at the beginning of the vid.

yes, I believe the driver did.

314joey 04-24-2014 05:25 PM

Who cares if someone gets hurt or killed as long as they go 100MPH.....................I'm being a smarty pants................going fast is what it's all about sometimes, guess I'm getting old, still younger than the boat driver though.

ICDEDPPL 04-24-2014 05:27 PM

Pretty sure thats a video a member posted a little while back...

tomtbone1993 04-24-2014 05:36 PM

captain wearing his lanyard, does not appear to be drinking, taking a nice little cruise in a big boat. I have seen a lot worse.

low_psi 04-24-2014 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 4111720)
captain wearing his lanyard, does not appear to be drinking, taking a nice little cruise in a big boat. I have seen a lot worse.

While I agree with your statement of wearing a lanyard, and doesn't appear to be drinking.... Would you allow a small child to ride without a jacket and another child to stand in between the dash pods like that while at speeds upwards of 100? I know I would not..... I, myself, would not be running those speeds with younger kids period, especially in the back, behind me where I wouldn't be able to see if they were alright, had been ejected, or were screaming for dear life. It appeared they were all having a good time, don't get me wrong. The driver even told the kids behind him to tap him on the shoulder if they wanted him to slow down. My problem with that is at close to 100 MPH, I am not sure one of those kids would have been able to reach up and get to him had there been an emergency or if they simply wanted him to slow down. I realize people make bad decisions all the time, I have made my fair share. However, I learn from my errors and think much more now as I grow older.

sr73z 04-24-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 4111709)
I think he slipped the lanyard on at the beginning of the vid.

Right, missed it first time. Definitely a must at that speed.

offshore312 04-24-2014 06:09 PM

Judging by the amount of open eyes I'm seeing, I don't think he hit 95. Still, too many people unsecured with no life jackets anywhere.

park35 04-24-2014 06:21 PM

Not very smart at all....especially with young kids aboard.....when my kids were younger I never broke 50mph.....now even though they are older I don't push it.....if anyone got hurt on my boat it would be a tuff pill to swollow especially if it was my fault...I have seen much worse

Young Performance 04-24-2014 06:43 PM

He was throttling it like the guy in the LOTO Fountain video:lolhit:

tomtbone1993 04-24-2014 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4111723)
While I agree with your statement of wearing a lanyard, and doesn't appear to be drinking.... Would you allow a small child to ride without a jacket and another child to stand in between the dash pods like that while at speeds upwards of 100? I know I would not..... I, myself, would not be running those speeds with younger kids period, especially in the back, behind me where I wouldn't be able to see if they were alright, had been ejected, or were screaming for dear life. It appeared they were all having a good time, don't get me wrong. The driver even told the kids behind him to tap him on the shoulder if they wanted him to slow down. My problem with that is at close to 100 MPH, I am not sure one of those kids would have been able to reach up and get to him had there been an emergency or if they simply wanted him to slow down. I realize people make bad decisions all the time, I have made my fair share. However, I learn from my errors and think much more now as I grow older.

Should the kids have life jackets yes....I think they are older than they appear. Captain does not drive stupid, or wreck less. Do I think this video deserves a separate thread calling him irresponsible and going viral hell no....just my two pennies....

US1 Fountain 04-24-2014 06:55 PM

Pretty sure if everyone put up a video of themselves running, we could pick it apart too.

boatnt 04-24-2014 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 4111744)
Pretty sure if everyone put up a video of themselves running, we could pick it apart too.

best reply yet.....

Perfect Storm 04-24-2014 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 4111739)
Should the kids have life jackets yes....I think they are older than they appear. Captain does not drive stupid, or wreck less. Do I think this video deserves a separate thread calling him irresponsible and going viral hell no....just my two pennies....

Totally agree... This thread should be deleted. Most kids won't put a life jacket on unless you tell them to, so that would have been a good idea, but, he's wearing a lanyard, and he's not doing ANYTHING with that boat that it can't capably handle. That Donzi hull was loving that water and speed. Also, I think it's important to point out that he's running that boat hard (safely) in an area where there didn't appear to be a whole lot of other boating traffic... NOT with Poker Runners 20 feet off his starboard and port sides. JMO

boatnt 04-24-2014 07:20 PM

so you guys are making comments on a video that you really did not watch all the way,,right?

if you did watch it you would have seen the driver put on his safety line from 10-35 seconds,shows him wearing it again at 4 minute mark as well as 6.35 minute mark,

at around 45 seconds he accelerates and then cuts back and tells his passengers they are going to go fast and if anybody gets nervous to tap him on the shoulder,

he is working the throttles and is not been a show off and blasting through the waves,,,keeps checking on his passengers,,nobody is walking around and everybody is holding on ,,

he does not look like he even hit 70 mph,,maybe around the 6 minute mark for a few seconds,,

so let me ask you ,,are you bored? is that the reason you started this thread?

thirdchildhood 04-24-2014 07:28 PM

Great looking kids. That boy in front was really having fun. They definitely need vests and proper seats. You won't pick a video apart of me running my boat. Not something like this. :(

Crude Intentions 04-24-2014 07:29 PM

I see no problems. All in the teen + range. Holding on and secure. Calm out. Y'all prolly don't wanna come out with me.

abmotorman 04-24-2014 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4111755)
so you guys are making comments on a video that you really did not watch all the way,,right?

if you did watch it you would have seen the driver put on his safety line from 10-35 seconds,shows him wearing it again at 4 minute mark as well as 6.35 minute mark,

at around 45 seconds he accelerates and then cuts back and tells his passengers they are going to go fast and if anybody gets nervous to tap him on the shoulder,

he is working the throttles and is not been a show off and blasting through the waves,,,keeps checking on his passengers,,nobody is walking around and everybody is holding on ,,

he does not look like he even hit 70 mph,,maybe around the 6 minute mark for a few seconds,,

so let me ask you ,,are you bored? is that the reason you started this thread?

Couldn't AGREE more with your comments.

No way did this boat ever hit 95mph. Their cheeks would have been flopping around. The kid in the front is jumping on purpose because he is having fun and wants more air time.

As far as PFD's, I personally tell all kids on board (15 and under) when we are running above 55mph regardless of conditions. PFD's will be worn.

Please rename this tread. "please make kids wear PFD's"

Michael1 04-24-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4111702)
So I was watching the 43 foot Donzi in the big surf video. After the video was over it pops up a bunch of related videos. I saw one title 95 MPH Donzi Run (or something to that effect). So being bored at work I watched. Come on people, why is commons sense lacking in these guys with big fast powerful boats? So if your wondering what my rant is about..... There is a kid in the back seat who appears to be 10 maybe 11 years old, not wearing a life jacket (problem number one). Second problem, no one is wearing jackets, but this is one of those arguments where I see both sides, so not really what I am ranting about here....... The third problem, I have with this video is the kid standing in between the dash. At these speeds how fast do you think the kid could have ended up with a mouth full of broken teeth, or maybe a broken skull. Maybe I am crazy or over protective, but I would NEVER allow kids of this age to stand in a boat at speed, let alone doing it without a jacket on. Granted the kid in the back is standing in a drop out side bolster seat.. To me this video is another example of high speed poor judgment. Rant Over.....

http://youtu.be/LB7F0JWWXsE

Don't see this as a rant at all. Maybe it will help enlighten people on how to be safe, which could save some injuries, lives, and keep insurance rates affordable. There were a number of times where the kid in front almost hit his face on the grab handle.

I see people are giving the "skipper" a "pass", because he is wearing a lanyard. Let's think about this. A lanyard shuts the boat down if you get pitched out. So he's thinking he might get pitched out, but doesn't think so far as to what happens when he and the other occupants of the boat hit the water.

If anyone gets pitched out at that speed without a life jacket, they will be so stunned or knocked out, they won't be able to swim, and will drown. I know someone who got a concussion hitting the water at 30 mph.

Michael

the deep 04-24-2014 07:54 PM

Good God PSI , next thing you'll want to ban guns . You are being awful judgmental and will end up being the one that is judged . Let freedom ring !!

thirdchildhood 04-24-2014 07:54 PM

I have mixed feeling I guess. He is keeping it safe by checking on everyone and the kid in front seems to know to hold on. I'll give him a pass! :)

mitchie 04-24-2014 08:28 PM

Definitely not 95mph. I will always think that if you are too cool for a lifejacket then you are an insecure douche.

inspector747 04-24-2014 08:32 PM

Without knowing if this is a twin engine (but by the size of the boat I am assuming it is) all it would take for an accident is for a gimble to break and that boat goes sideways. Stryker 28 crashed from that problem on lake Washington and killed the driver. just my $.02

TexasVines 04-24-2014 08:34 PM

it was strange at 3:57 the lanyard was there and then it looked like it just disappeared, but he did put it on at the start

I will get flamed I am sure, but I hate the mandatory kids in vest rule I think it is stupid and it was not around when I was a kid and everyone seemed to survive in spite of the NUMEROUS stupid things often done.......like bike helmets or skateboard helmets how did we ever survive in the past.....oh yea because we were either not stupid or learned from our stupidity.......kids today never seem to learn and turn into stupid adults

the only thing I saw "wrong" was about 2 too many people on the boat and that is just because over the years I have learned that you cut down the numbers on the boat and dramatically increase the overall fun.......nothing worse than 8 dude brahs on a wakeboat along with 3-4 girls and eventually you have several whiners and you have to drop a few off at the docks and tell them to hit the road......when you never should have drug half of them onto the water to start

but then again in this particular video it looks like they were out for a speed run (or a Miami Vice run as we used to call it) and that is usually when you do load up a few "riders" and make a run and hit the docks before they can complain or after they have managed to hurt themselves haha

lanyard looked to be on so throttles forward captain is what I say!...the rest is who cares maxillofacial surgeons need work too!

stimleck 04-24-2014 09:05 PM

parents should read this story before they do this.


http://www.naplesnews.com/photos/gal..._marco_island/

respect the water!

cig92 04-24-2014 09:41 PM

looked like a fun ride to me. i see nothing wrong with this video. people are to critical these days and throw too many hypotheticals into the mix. the man has a beautiful boat and seems to be enjoying it as he should

low_psi 04-24-2014 09:44 PM

The guys jumping my ass, well we all have our own opinion. I see anyone standing In between dash pods (it even appears there are steps there that the kid keeps stepping down and then back up on) at speed dangerous. Adults that do so, should understand the danger of doing so. As well as the dangers of running at speed standing up holding a grab rail and not wearing jackets. So as an adult I say that's your choice. While I think any adult running at speeds 70+ should have a jacket on, I am not one to say it isn't their choice, because it is. However, kids don't understand the full danger. Therefore it is the responsibility of the adults aboard to protect the kids from the dangers they don't know of. As far as the gun control crack. That's just a stupid comment. Seriously I get tired of everyone trying to pull their political BS into any conversation they can. So if I suggest the kids should have jackets on I am against guns and for obamacare? Come on. As far as being bored? Yeah I said I was sitting at work bored, it's in the first damn post. I watched the video because I was bored. As far as the speed at which the boat is traveling..... I was simply stating the speed because that's what it said in the title of the video. Never did I say based on what I saw they were running at "xx" speed. I also never said anything stating the driver was driving erratic, dangerous, to fast for the conditions, near other boats, etc.

I certainly don't know the number... But I ask this question anyway. How many children under the age of 16 die every year in boating related accidents due to not wearing a PFD? If the answer is more than zero, than that's too many!

12meter joe 04-24-2014 10:18 PM

I watched the video again and my conclusion is that there's no half naked skanks on the boat. Useless thread.

hadleycat 04-24-2014 10:20 PM

Wish I could sit at work bored !

low_psi 04-24-2014 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 4111864)
I watched the video again and my conclusion is that there's no half naked skanks on the boat. Useless thread.

Fair enough....

low_psi 04-24-2014 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by hadleycat (Post 4111866)
Wish I could sit at work bored !

One night a week, Thursdays (tonight) I have to stay at the office until 7:00 PM, waiting for the phone to ring. Which it never does...... It kind of sucks......

tomtbone1993 04-24-2014 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 4111843)
The guys jumping my ass, well we all have our own opinion. I see anyone standing In between dash pods (it even appears there are steps there that the kid keeps stepping down and then back up on) at speed dangerous. Adults that do so, should understand the danger of doing so. As well as the dangers of running at speed standing up holding a grab rail and not wearing jackets. So as an adult I say that's your choice. While I think any adult running at speeds 70+ should have a jacket on, I am not one to say it isn't their choice, because it is. However, kids don't understand the full danger. Therefore it is the responsibility of the adults aboard to protect the kids from the dangers they don't know of. As far as the gun control crack. That's just a stupid comment. Seriously I get tired of everyone trying to pull their political BS into any conversation they can. So if I suggest the kids should have jackets on I am against guns and for obamacare? Come on. As far as being bored? Yeah I said I was sitting at work bored, it's in the first damn post. I watched the video because I was bored. As far as the speed at which the boat is traveling..... I was simply stating the speed because that's what it said in the title of the video. Never did I say based on what I saw they were running at "xx" speed. I also never said anything stating the driver was driving erratic, dangerous, to fast for the conditions, near other boats, etc.

I certainly don't know the number... But I ask this question anyway. How many children under the age of 16 die every year in boating related accidents due to not wearing a PFD? If the answer is more than zero, than that's too many!




http://www.americanboating.org/boating_fatality.asp

12meter joe 04-24-2014 10:34 PM

Least its trending in the right direction

tomtbone1993 04-24-2014 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by inspector747 (Post 4111790)
Without knowing if this is a twin engine (but by the size of the boat I am assuming it is) all it would take for an accident is for a gimble to break and that boat goes sideways. Stryker 28 crashed from that problem on lake Washington and killed the driver. just my $.02

You can tell from the rooster tail it is a staggard twin boat....I am guessing 38+

Fenderjack 04-24-2014 10:57 PM

Don't see no real harm here. Doubt they were going the speeds mentioned in the vid. We all have done it or something in this nature. C'mon no slaying issue here IMO.


John jr

ApachePete 04-24-2014 11:13 PM

That guy is good on the sticks.


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