Outerlimits Sets SV Single Kilo Record
#11
Loto shootout and a official Kilo run are very different.
You simply can not compare the two. In the kilo record books it does not matter what speed a boat did in a shootout. The SV43 race boat has seen higher GPS speeds than the record official speed which is an average of both ways. It's also very different to hit a top speed for a burst than to run stable at speed for a long run. Boats do very different things when they settle into a speed than under acceleration.
An official record is just that.
Mike
You simply can not compare the two. In the kilo record books it does not matter what speed a boat did in a shootout. The SV43 race boat has seen higher GPS speeds than the record official speed which is an average of both ways. It's also very different to hit a top speed for a burst than to run stable at speed for a long run. Boats do very different things when they settle into a speed than under acceleration.
An official record is just that.
Mike
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Mike
If you are referring to my post since I did use the word "shootout" you are exactly right shootouts and kilos are apples and oranges, but in being apart of 2 current and will never be broken F1 kilo records(class is no longer offered) as well as being the current owner of the record F1 Fountain, in kilos in order to be certified to hold the record, the boat must meet strict technical rules of the class. I posted the link to the certifying organization(APBA) rulebook. I beg of you to prove to me that the 29 met those strict requirements... My point being, it is nothing more than a "shootout" speed, since the boat obviously did not met the strict requirements stated in said rulebook.
Congrats to Joe and the 43SV as that is an "unlimited" boat that is not covered in said rulebook so anyone can stand behind it without question.
I would also like to know more importantly if other teams were invited to this event?
If you are referring to my post since I did use the word "shootout" you are exactly right shootouts and kilos are apples and oranges, but in being apart of 2 current and will never be broken F1 kilo records(class is no longer offered) as well as being the current owner of the record F1 Fountain, in kilos in order to be certified to hold the record, the boat must meet strict technical rules of the class. I posted the link to the certifying organization(APBA) rulebook. I beg of you to prove to me that the 29 met those strict requirements... My point being, it is nothing more than a "shootout" speed, since the boat obviously did not met the strict requirements stated in said rulebook.
Congrats to Joe and the 43SV as that is an "unlimited" boat that is not covered in said rulebook so anyone can stand behind it without question.
I would also like to know more importantly if other teams were invited to this event?
Last edited by F1-00 Racing; 04-29-2014 at 12:20 PM.
#13
I just spoke to Mark Wheeler at APBA. This is NOT a SVL record. He knows the boat was not legal for the APBA/OPA SVL class. The record will be under special events and the class will be called MODIFIED Super Vee Lite. It is NOT an offshore SVL record.
Questions? Call APBA and speak to Mark Wheeler.
Questions? Call APBA and speak to Mark Wheeler.
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Mike
If you are referring to my post since I did use the word "shootout" you are exactly right shootouts and kilos are apples and oranges, but in being apart of 2 current and will never be broken F1 kilo records(class is no longer offered) as well as being the current owner of the record F1 Fountain, in kilos in order to be certified to hold the record, the boat must meet strict technical rules of the class. I posted the link to the certifying organization(APBA) rulebook. I beg of you to prove to me that the 29 met those strict requirements... My point being, it is nothing more than a "shootout" speed, since the boat obviously did not met the strict requirements stated in said rulebook.
Congrats to Joe and the 43SV as that is an "unlimited" boat that is not covered in said rulebook so anyone can stand behind it without question.
I would also like to know more importantly if other teams were invited to this event?
If you are referring to my post since I did use the word "shootout" you are exactly right shootouts and kilos are apples and oranges, but in being apart of 2 current and will never be broken F1 kilo records(class is no longer offered) as well as being the current owner of the record F1 Fountain, in kilos in order to be certified to hold the record, the boat must meet strict technical rules of the class. I posted the link to the certifying organization(APBA) rulebook. I beg of you to prove to me that the 29 met those strict requirements... My point being, it is nothing more than a "shootout" speed, since the boat obviously did not met the strict requirements stated in said rulebook.
Congrats to Joe and the 43SV as that is an "unlimited" boat that is not covered in said rulebook so anyone can stand behind it without question.
I would also like to know more importantly if other teams were invited to this event?
Fair enough, good points.
I guess they should not have referenced the previous record since they did not officially break it. At least from what it sounds like.
Although this boat does meet the current rules for SVL and should be the holder of the kilo record for that class. Correct?
Mike
#15
Fair enough, good points.
I guess they should not have referenced the previous record since they did not officially break it. At least from what it sounds like.
Although this boat does meet the current rules for SVL and should be the holder of the kilo record for that class. Correct?
Mike
I guess they should not have referenced the previous record since they did not officially break it. At least from what it sounds like.
Although this boat does meet the current rules for SVL and should be the holder of the kilo record for that class. Correct?
Mike
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I just spoke to Mark Wheeler at APBA. This is NOT a SVL record. He knows the boat was not legal for the APBA/OPA SVL class. The record will be under special events and the class will be called MODIFIED Super Vee Lite. It is NOT an offshore SVL record.
Questions? Call APBA and speak to Mark Wheeler.
Questions? Call APBA and speak to Mark Wheeler.
Is there any possibility that I just pay for my OPA membership? No need to pay for a digital magazine that is accessible through APBA's facebook page for free
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Also an additional question that Mr Wheeler cant answer, Ron, why was OPA NOT involved as Eastern North Carolina where this "special event" took place falls under Region 4 of APBA. OPA and APBA's contract (according to the press release) includes Regions 1,2,3,4, & 6, in which OPA would govern all offshore activities within those regions.
Last edited by F1-00 Racing; 04-29-2014 at 02:03 PM.
#19
Trent, you are correct on all points. To say Mr Wheeler got an earful from OPA is an understatement to say the least. Augie was even considering sending him a dead fish...that's how bad it got. We are now reconsidering our decision to join up with APBA. This weekend at the race meeting, we'll discuss it with the teams and get their thoughts. From what I can see...and always have seen...APBA provides OPA and it's teams with the following benefits.
1. The ability to do joint event with categories like Jet Skis which make for a bigger and better overall event for our race producers, sponsors and fans.
2. The ability for our teams to set records on an enduring web site/ record book.
3. The ability for UIM teams to race with us.
4. The ability for OPA teams to get into the APBA Hall of Champions.
If the downside of having to deal with APBA politics exceeds the upside, we'll move sideways and dump the alphabet soup and go back to being just OPA.
1. The ability to do joint event with categories like Jet Skis which make for a bigger and better overall event for our race producers, sponsors and fans.
2. The ability for our teams to set records on an enduring web site/ record book.
3. The ability for UIM teams to race with us.
4. The ability for OPA teams to get into the APBA Hall of Champions.
If the downside of having to deal with APBA politics exceeds the upside, we'll move sideways and dump the alphabet soup and go back to being just OPA.



