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Old 07-15-2014 | 07:45 PM
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I had a1989 Avanti 22 with a 454 365hp back in the day. It ran 70 all day long
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Old 07-15-2014 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pbekemeyer
It take about 20 horse power to go 1 mph faster, 100 horse power to gain 5 mph depending of the boat. That is kind of the ball park when trying to make your boat go fast what it will take.
Not always true, as stated it isn't linear. Going from 50 to 60 mph takes a lot less hp than going from 70 to 80 mph.

You need to find the efficiency of your hull and then do the math. If your boat weighs 4500 lbs your efficiency would be 203. So adding 100hp would give you about 8 mph. Adding 200 would give you about 14 mph.

That being said, 55 mph with 330 hp seems a little low. But, I don't know much about your hull.

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Old 07-16-2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera
Not always true, as stated it isn't linear. Going from 50 to 60 mph takes a lot less hp than going from 70 to 80 mph.

You need to find the efficiency of your hull and then do the math. If your boat weighs 4500 lbs your efficiency would be 203. So adding 100hp would give you about 8 mph. Adding 200 would give you about 14 mph.

That being said, 55 mph with 330 hp seems a little low. But, I don't know much about your hull.
The nerd-ist answer is this; The power required is (1/2*p*v)[SUP]3[/SUP]*A*Cd

Where p is the density of the fluid
v is the relative velocity
A is the cross-section Area
Cd is the drag coefficient

So if we put some arbitrary numbers in for effect, we will see the power differential at given speeds. So if the density of the fluid is 1, the speed is 40, the Area is 2 and the Cd is 0.5, you need 8000 units of thrust to maintain the speed. Changing only the speed, it looks like this;

40=8000
50=15625
60=27000
70=42875
80=64000
90=91125

So to double the speed from 40 to 80, you need 8 times the thrust. From 40 to 50 is almost double, requiring 7,625 over the 8000. But 50 to 60 requires 11,375 for the next 10 mph.

If you plot the points of hp required at a given set of speeds (say, every 5 mph. And the hp scale should be available for a given engine at differing rpm) then you can project APPROXIMATE speed increases up the log scale. Where planing hulls differ from cars and planes is as you accelerate, you CAN reduce the area in contact with the water (to a point).

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Old 07-16-2014 | 05:05 PM
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PP - I'm impressed. lol.
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Old 07-16-2014 | 05:14 PM
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yes the area in contact with water is reduced, but the amount of boat weight is then spread over a much smaller area. so as hull climbs out of the water, the drag coefficient increases on what is left in contact with water. and you still have air resistance against the rest of the hull. also an exponential drag increase.
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Old 07-16-2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PigNaPoke
PP - I'm impressed. lol.

was getting and understanding everything up to now......phuck it! I'll have a beer or two or six then re-read what he posted.
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Old 07-17-2014 | 06:22 PM
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PigNaPoke any pics of your avanti? Sorry phragle as you know mine was an outboard, can't help ya with where you should be at.
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Old 07-17-2014 | 08:01 PM
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Old 07-17-2014 | 09:08 PM
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A little update.. did a little tweaking today and saw 61 and still climbing when I hit a chunk of driftwood or something. Scared the crap out of me seriously loud back and it bent the tips on 2 ears. Its got a little more in it, not much but a little.
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Old 07-17-2014 | 09:11 PM
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that sounds good rob. took me a lot of playing to find the sweet spot.
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