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Originally Posted by Speedracer29
(Post 4155494)
Center console = more seating for skanks.... And if you can fill up a Concept 30' cabin with blow or horse, you got other things to deal with.
No center console would satisfy my need for this. My old lady loves to race and haul ass almost more than I do. It's not in your blood if your happy with a big v-bottom open cockpit boat with some weed wackers on the back. Period Hell, my 70 year old dad bought a 42 lightning fountain with 525's. First ride he looks over at me and goes this thing is a slow pig. Couple weeks later 42 lightning with 700's with whipple upgrades. lol |
My Donzi 29 zfc with twin Merc 250 efi's will run right at 70 mph and is always the center of attention at raft ups. Oh and yes I do get mistaken for the law all the time.
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Originally Posted by CLA
(Post 4155592)
Maybe, but I've been a "gear head" my whole life. Dirt bikes, BMX racing in the late 80's early 90's, drag cars, road racing, SCCA, etc.
No center console would satisfy my need for this. My old lady loves to race and haul ass almost more than I do. It's not in your blood if your happy with a big v-bottom open cockpit boat with some weed wackers on the back. Period Hell, my 70 year old dad bought a 42 lightning fountain with 525's. First ride he looks over at me and goes this thing is a slow pig. Couple weeks later 42 lightning with 700's with whipple upgrades. lol I would say that is a false statement. I grew up around drag racing, I have had some kind of muscle car to tinker with my whole life, I work on them and love them. My boat....love it. But it comes a time when your at the dock cause your down for the day and everyone else is at the island having fun. Then you come to FL and you boat 10months out of the year but yet you are still the guy with boat issues and when you're not you are drawing straws with friends for who you can take and those days get old fast. You can still love muscle and have it in your blood running a "weed eater". After a while a little sensibility has to come into play and ask your self why you are doing this just to have the noise. Cause unless you have a very built boat these days.... Those weed eaters are running right next to you having a blast. |
Originally Posted by CLA
(Post 4155592)
It's not in your blood if your happy with a big v-bottom open cockpit boat with some weed wackers on the back. Period
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Originally Posted by CLA It's not in your blood if your happy with a big v-bottom open cockpit boat with some weed wackers on the back. Period |
Originally Posted by CLA
(Post 4155592)
Maybe, but I've been a "gear head" my whole life. Dirt bikes, BMX racing in the late 80's early 90's, drag cars, road racing, SCCA, etc.
No center console would satisfy my need for this. My old lady loves to race and haul ass almost more than I do. It's not in your blood if your happy with a big v-bottom open cockpit boat with some weed wackers on the back. Period Hell, my 70 year old dad bought a 42 lightning fountain with 525's. First ride he looks over at me and goes this thing is a slow pig. Couple weeks later 42 lightning with 700's with whipple upgrades. lol |
Originally Posted by jbraun2828
(Post 4155708)
I'm with you
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155741)
Me too. I'm surprised at all the praise for CCs on this thread. First our inland lakes get taken over by pontoons and now these giant 70 mph fiberglass pontoons are going to replace traditional go-fasts? I don't like it. I don't need ten people on my boat. I rarely have four.
Get more friends and get out of the lakes.....they are called offshore boats right? BTW....just giving you **** |
Originally Posted by pstorti
(Post 4155278)
says the guy with a 22' boat with almost no freeboard lol :)
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you could always run the 557 outboards,, that way you have supercharged LSx V8 muscle in your outboards! :)
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This is my second CC and I couldnt be happier, the boat has a great layout, very well built, I love the simplicity of a CC and nothing like standing up working on your motors. I have a 4yr old and for kids it's a no brainer, bottom line I own a boat to "use" it and have fun, that's it!
32' x 8' x 6,000 lbs, about 57 gps top speed with my old 250's, should be 63-64 when I re-power with Merc 250 xs's in a year or so. I do my yearly maintenance in the spring and run the boat all summer. Sonic bought the Dakota molds and is selling the same hull, Marlago, Marlin, Palmetto were all the same basic hull at some point. all composite construction, no wood rot to worry about. About 5'5" headroom in console for a head, decent cabin that 2 can sleep in, Boat rides great in rough water, that's the main reason I bought this model. CLA if the only thing keeping your lady from leaving is the boat you may need to re-evaulate http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8b1405c8.jpg |
Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4155755)
Get more friends and get out of the lakes.....they are called offshore boats right?
BTW....just giving you ****
Originally Posted by ratman
(Post 4155763)
lmao... good point lol
Here is a pic of the four boats that I ran to PIB with that day. We left from Lake St. Clair. Lake Erie was kicking up a bit with 2-3s so I had to slow down a bit. I was thinking that these guys were going to be on the island already by the time I got there but as I approached the harbor there they were, just pulling in! I tied up across the way where my little boat could fit without rafting. Of course I mostly hung out with the Donzi guys but that's Kemosabe and a 52 OL in front of the two ZRs. These boats are what I'm talking about. You want to entertain all your friends? Get a yacht. ;) http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...Picture061.jpg |
Just to bring this conversation full circle........Don Aronow would be 87 years old now, he most likely would be enjoying a center console like his long time friend George Bush (age 90), 38 Fountain CC named Fidelity.
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Originally Posted by Pete280
(Post 4155811)
This is my second CC and I couldnt be happier, the boat has a great layout, very well built, I love the simplicity of a CC and nothing like standing up working on your motors. I have a 4yr old and for kids it's a no brainer, bottom line I own a boat to "use" it and have fun, that's it!
32' x 8' x 6,000 lbs, about 57 gps top speed with my old 250's, should be 63-64 when I re-power with Merc 250 xs's in a year or so. I do my yearly maintenance in the spring and run the boat all summer. Sonic bought the Dakota molds and is selling the same hull, Marlago, Marlin, Palmetto were all the same basic hull at some point. all composite construction, no wood rot to worry about. About 5'5" headroom in console for a head, decent cabin that 2 can sleep in, Boat rides great in rough water, that's the main reason I bought this model. CLA if the only thing keeping your lady from leaving is the boat you may need to re-evaulate |
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155813)
My boat goes off-shore on a regular basis. I have run with Kemosabe Apache and a 52 Outerlimits and two 38 ZRs to PIB. Of course I wasn't the fastest but I was dead even with the 38ZR with two 525s. I like my small boat. I can trailer it and I can afford to drive it more. Most of my boating is during the week when friends are working. Also, if I wanted to entertain 10+ friends I would probably upgrade to a yacht instead of a CC. They are just not that appealing to me. That's all. To each his own. I like traditional go-fasts in any size.
Here is a pic of the four boats that I ran to PIB with that day. We left from Lake St. Clair. Lake Erie was kicking up a bit with 2-3s so I had to slow down a bit. I was thinking that these guys were going to be on the island already by the time I got there but as I approached the harbor there they were, just pulling in! I tied up across the way where my little boat could fit without rafting. Of course I mostly hung out with the Donzi guys but that's Kemosabe and a 52 OL in front of the two ZRs. These boats are what I'm talking about. You want to entertain all your friends? Get a yacht. ;) http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...Picture061.jpg |
Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4155755)
Get more friends and get out of the lakes.....they are called offshore boats right?
BTW....just giving you ****
Originally Posted by ratman
(Post 4155763)
lmao... good point lol
Originally Posted by bill63
(Post 4155850)
Kinda funny two of those guys in the picture own center consoles also.
70 miles per hour does not get me into the thrill zone so might as well have the comfort of a yacht or nice cruiser. All just my opinion of course. I just don't see the appeal of the CCs other than the convenience of the OBs. |
the real issue at hand is the same with any big power hobby.
the real fast cars still are using old school power. they are a lot of maintence but nothing has changed. what has changed is the cheap stuff is getting way faster. Boats are the exact same way. the "normal" bar has been set so high that no normal person can play in the same league. its all about huge $ and little in ways of innovation. the days of a guy sitting around tinkering and testing to gain a few mph is over. No matter what nothing will ever compete with the sound of a blown big block firing off... if it does for maintenance or inconvienence - you don't get the same feeling from it some of us do... |
I love my cc.....great compromise between going fast and taking out the family. When the kids are on board, we pull right up to the beach, throw all the gear off,everyone jumps off, my wife isn't hanging on for dear life on a freshly waxed deck trying to tie off an anchor......very family friendly. Then when I am Alone, I can blast around all day at 80 mph without a care in the world. Now I know 80mph is slow for many here, but it gets the job done. Now mine is what you could call 'no frills' , but I like it that way. Now I have my moments where I say...a cabin would be nice, not getting blasted by the wind would be nice, some more amenities would be nice.....but grass is always greener
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155813)
My boat goes off-shore on a regular basis. I have run with Kemosabe Apache and a 52 Outerlimits and two 38 ZRs to PIB. Of course I wasn't the fastest but I was dead even with the 38ZR with two 525s. I like my small boat. I can trailer it and I can afford to drive it more. Most of my boating is during the week when friends are working. Also, if I wanted to entertain 10+ friends I would probably upgrade to a yacht instead of a CC. They are just not that appealing to me. That's all. To each his own. I like traditional go-fasts in any size.
Here is a pic of the four boats that I ran to PIB with that day. We left from Lake St. Clair. Lake Erie was kicking up a bit with 2-3s so I had to slow down a bit. I was thinking that these guys were going to be on the island already by the time I got there but as I approached the harbor there they were, just pulling in! I tied up across the way where my little boat could fit without rafting. Of course I mostly hung out with the Donzi guys but that's Kemosabe and a 52 OL in front of the two ZRs. These boats are what I'm talking about. You want to entertain all your friends? Get a yacht. ;) http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/x...Picture061.jpg Yachts run 70 and affordable? Cause if so then sign me the hell up. Also 2'/3' seas are average days here. |
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155859)
Like I said, to each their own. If I could afford a nice second boat for entertaining large groups it would be a yacht with full bar and amenities.
70 miles per hour does not get me into the thrill zone so might as well have the comfort of a yacht or nice cruiser. All just my opinion of course. I just don't see the appeal of the CCs other than the convenience of the OBs. 70's offshore in real waves is more than enough to get your heart up. I hope you realize most these big offshore boats are in that range as far as speed |
"Our inland lakes" do you mean that only Offshore boat owners should be allowed to use your inland lakes??
Some of you redneck members are brutal, you treat every other type of boater like an enemy, you need to wake up and get back to the roots of boating, "pleasure and respect on the water" Whether you drive a sail boat a pontoon, a bass boat of a 42 Cig we are all boaters
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155741)
Me too. I'm surprised at all the praise for CCs on this thread. First our inland lakes get taken over by pontoons and now these giant 70 mph fiberglass pontoons are going to replace traditional go-fasts? I don't like it. I don't need ten people on my boat. I rarely have four.
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no wood! awesome, put 300 xs's the difference over a 250 is unbelievable
Originally Posted by Pete280
(Post 4155811)
This is my second CC and I couldnt be happier, the boat has a great layout, very well built, I love the simplicity of a CC and nothing like standing up working on your motors. I have a 4yr old and for kids it's a no brainer, bottom line I own a boat to "use" it and have fun, that's it!
32' x 8' x 6,000 lbs, about 57 gps top speed with my old 250's, should be 63-64 when I re-power with Merc 250 xs's in a year or so. I do my yearly maintenance in the spring and run the boat all summer. Sonic bought the Dakota molds and is selling the same hull, Marlago, Marlin, Palmetto were all the same basic hull at some point. all composite construction, no wood rot to worry about. About 5'5" headroom in console for a head, decent cabin that 2 can sleep in, Boat rides great in rough water, that's the main reason I bought this model. CLA if the only thing keeping your lady from leaving is the boat you may need to re-evaulate http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8b1405c8.jpg |
Nevermind. You can't discuss anything here intelligently anymore without people getting an attitude. Sad.
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155891)
Nevermind. You can't discuss anything here intelligently anymore without people getting an attitude. Sad.
Lol.....I am going to say you started it the unintelligent end of it there bud. |
If I lived in a fresh water lake I would not appreciate OB's either but for saltwater they are the ticket, anodized aluminum holds up much better than steel, period!, OB's are also designed for the purpose, extended high RPM runs are normal.
Jupiter, the Marlin was a 35, there are differences between all of those but I think the hulls are the same, the 35's are 9'4" wide and mine is 8' but I think the hull is similar. I think they were ahead of their time for a lot of the features, mine is a 97 |
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155891)
Nevermind. You can't discuss anything here intelligently anymore without people getting an attitude. Sad.
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I owned a 28' Mako C.C. from 1987 to 1998 and to this day i miss that boat. It's not about how many people you can carry, more about the simplicity of operation and maintenance. I still don't get the blinging up that's done to performance C.C's, seem to compromise the intent having to keep up all the high end upolstery, carpeting, stereo speakers, gazillion of anodized signage stating who made the boat etc. C.C. boats are work trucks and work trucks can be blingless and fast.
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4155891)
Nevermind. You can't discuss anything here intelligently anymore without people getting an attitude. Sad.
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Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4155507)
Who the hell are you hanging out with that would do that?
Maybe you should see what kind of friends you have first then There used to be this couple who had one of those big wide old Sea Ray 42s from the 80s who used to come out to our sand bar. There were all kinds of people on that boat big party. Boat would get trashed, unbelievable. |
[QUOTE=low_psi;4155513] Not sure how many CCs you've seen or what the water cops have where you boat, but I don't think anyone has ever mistaken my boat for the sheriff or Coast Guard....
Thats what they drive up here CCs with twin OBs. Im not kidding you when I see one I think its the Cops. |
Im looking to get into a CC.I Would like to leave it in Florida to use for the winter. Looking at around 25ft, would need some type of enclosed head thats at least big enough for a porta potti and to change out of wet clothes in. Would like it to run in the 60s. Not really interested in any fishing features.
Is something like this available |
Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 4156305)
Im looking to get into a CC.I Would like to leave it in Florida to use for the winter. Looking at around 25ft, would need some type of enclosed head thats at least big enough for a porta potti and to change out of wet clothes in. Would like it to run in the 60s. Not really interested in any fishing features.
Is something like this available ed |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4155843)
A kid I went to high school with, his dad was a partner in Marlin. Back in the late 80's/early 90's they scored a contract with the Broward Sheriff's Office to build Marlins for their marine units but I think they were bigger than a 32. The partnership eventually blew apart and I never heard much about boats at his house again.
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
(Post 4155478)
112-ish
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Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 4156305)
Im looking to get into a CC.I Would like to leave it in Florida to use for the winter. Looking at around 25ft, would need some type of enclosed head thats at least big enough for a porta potti and to change out of wet clothes in. Would like it to run in the 60s. Not really interested in any fishing features.
Is something like this available |
I think you'll have to adjust your criteria a little but you may want to look at Donzi, they make a 23zf and a 26 zf that may have a console large enough to change in.
Concept make a 27 (25' hull) that will get the speeds but you wont have a space to change in, just wrap a towel around yourself and change. you would have to go to a 30 (28 hull) for a small cabin I think the idea that people are flopping around like rag dolls in CC's is quite exaggerated, like Jupiter said unless you have 10ppl going 70mph in 2-3' waves they are very safe. In both of my CC's all of my seats (or standing positions) have grab handles, my son was sleeping on my wifes lap yesterday for almost 20 miles going 50-52 mph in a mixed up 2' chop, only saw her hand go up for me to slow down 2-3 times! |
I have no idea how they handle Lake Michigan water but this Concept sure caught my eye..
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Enjoying a 90 degree Sept day, hard to pull up on this beach with a I/O, mine is in background, I was in less that 2' of water
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Boat ran great all summer, I love the boat and it's paid for so the list of winter projects in long.
Remove Arch and have it re-configure or replaced, New Upholstery New boot stripe Wet sand and clear coat hull New transducer New White Rub Rail Lot's of little stuff http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49395079.jpg |
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