Commentary: Center Console Futures
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I couldn't ask for a better all around boat than my GTS. We had 16 people on the Key West run last year and it wasn't cramped. The boat handles all water conditions well, pump out toilet, stereo, satellite TV, radar, shade, and it's not too bad to trailer. The biggest complaint that I have is you have to remember to turn the engines off, because you can't hear them running
Don't get me wrong, I drool over the Huntress and the MTI-V, but the beam on the bigger CC's is wider than I want to tow.
Don't get me wrong, I drool over the Huntress and the MTI-V, but the beam on the bigger CC's is wider than I want to tow.
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The thought of a 25' Tantrum with a cabin, 3 row seating, and a pair of Optimax motors on a bracket just gave me a chubby.
Meanwhile, my checkbook had a mild heart attack...
Meanwhile, my checkbook had a mild heart attack...
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you just stated the case for them, how many people really enjoy blowing $1000 on gas for a day of high speed wave pounding, 0.01 of the boat buying public and even fewer of their guests. the number goes up when you add the pleasure of "being seen" in a crazy cool boat but even then its 0.003. The reality is the majority of people that can afford these boats wants to be able to be the Host with the most" and the new flashy CC's allow them to do it without taking a huge ego hit by going slow.
If I had the money I would have both
If I had the money I would have both
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oops, just reread the quoted post above... Yes Concept does make a closed deck 30. They call it the 30 Sport Deck. There aren't many out there but the ones that are out there are well laid out. The 30 Sport Deck was on my short list when I was shopping...
The CC segment is growing up here in MI. While there aren't many custom high dollar CCs running around, I am seeing more and more CCs/OB boats every time we go out. Our Concept is one of only a few here in SE MI, and I am asked about it every time we go out, at the dock, gas station, etc. The Concept has the look of the go-fast, more so than most of the others. Don't get me wrong, if my check book could support it I'd have a Deep Impact/MTI/Nor-tech/etc over my Concept. But having come from a smaller Go-Fast (Velocity 260) to the CC market, the Concept kept the look and almost as much speed. Velocity 260 would hit 74 on a perfect day (GPS), I have had the Concept up to 66 with the Bimini stretched out and motors trimmed in (So I'd say the Concept is a 68 MPH boat), but the Concept crushes my single 496 in acceleration.. With the Velocity we cruised at 45 MPH, with the Concept we cruise at 45 so where we spend most of our time (slow cruise speed, the O/Bs like to run in higher RPMs, but we like to cruise a bit slower so I am sure we suffer a bit fuel mileage wise by cruising slower) I haven't given up anything (actually gained fuel economy).
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OL has built a couple nice boats this year.......check
MTI premiered Gino's boat at the Miami show......check
Then crickets in the go fast market.....Shogren doesn't stock a single new go fast cat or vee, arguably the biggest go fast dealer in the world and not one in stock, dealer at LOTO still owns the first 36 OL/ even after heavy price cuts and 2 yr warranty on the power.....market is dead.....check!
I can remember seeing 24-36 brand new boats in between Miami and Lauderdale show.......all sold in 8 month period. Saw this multiple years in a row, buy and run it in the next poker run. Some guys bought 5+ brand new go fast boats. I can't remember the last new go fast I have even seen on the water in S. Florida.
MTI premiered Gino's boat at the Miami show......check
Then crickets in the go fast market.....Shogren doesn't stock a single new go fast cat or vee, arguably the biggest go fast dealer in the world and not one in stock, dealer at LOTO still owns the first 36 OL/ even after heavy price cuts and 2 yr warranty on the power.....market is dead.....check!
I can remember seeing 24-36 brand new boats in between Miami and Lauderdale show.......all sold in 8 month period. Saw this multiple years in a row, buy and run it in the next poker run. Some guys bought 5+ brand new go fast boats. I can't remember the last new go fast I have even seen on the water in S. Florida.
Only an idiot would argue that the market will ever return to former levels or anything close to them. But I would gently suggest that it is you who is "done" with the market, something I understand, and not the market itself that is done. It's just a whole lot smaller than it used to be, but frankly that just belabors the obvious.
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I'll never own one. Nothing like driving a cat at high speed. My old lady would leave for a cool guy if I ever bought a fishing boat.
I think what gets everyone is they don't do their own work. I change my oil, fuel filters, drive oil, drive alignment, etc. If you have reliable power (merc/ilmor/etc) and can do your own work these boats are a crap load of fun. Over 400 hours on my Eliminator in 5-6 seasons.
Look at the boats in the classifieds. Few year old big boats with huge carb'd blower motors. Only an idiot or a mechanic would try and run that regularly. Or the guy that has so much money he just drops it off and tells someone to make it run.
I think what gets everyone is they don't do their own work. I change my oil, fuel filters, drive oil, drive alignment, etc. If you have reliable power (merc/ilmor/etc) and can do your own work these boats are a crap load of fun. Over 400 hours on my Eliminator in 5-6 seasons.
Look at the boats in the classifieds. Few year old big boats with huge carb'd blower motors. Only an idiot or a mechanic would try and run that regularly. Or the guy that has so much money he just drops it off and tells someone to make it run.
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I'll never own one. Nothing like driving a cat at high speed. My old lady would leave for a cool guy if I ever bought a fishing boat.
I think what gets everyone is they don't do their own work. I change my oil, fuel filters, drive oil, drive alignment, etc. If you have reliable power (merc/ilmor/etc) and can do your own work these boats are a crap load of fun. Over 400 hours on my Eliminator in 5-6 seasons.
Look at the boats in the classifieds. Few year old big boats with huge carb'd blower motors. Only an idiot or a mechanic would try and run that regularly. Or the guy that has so much money he just drops it off and tells someone to make it run.
I think what gets everyone is they don't do their own work. I change my oil, fuel filters, drive oil, drive alignment, etc. If you have reliable power (merc/ilmor/etc) and can do your own work these boats are a crap load of fun. Over 400 hours on my Eliminator in 5-6 seasons.
Look at the boats in the classifieds. Few year old big boats with huge carb'd blower motors. Only an idiot or a mechanic would try and run that regularly. Or the guy that has so much money he just drops it off and tells someone to make it run.
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I'm sure FL insurance is high. But these hobbies cost money. I was just quoted under 4K a year for a 30 plus foot cat with mild power no lay up in Texas. Tottaly worth it to me.




