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Old 07-23-2014 | 07:16 AM
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A 50 Nortech, 46 Rough Rider, or a 47/52 Outerlimits will run circles around a 41 Apache with equal power and in any water.

With the market today, you can pickup all of them for under what they are asking for Allez Vite, Tonto, and Tatonka.

Todays tech is way ahead of the old straight bottom resin buckets and somebody on here had a good saying a little while back: "Nostalgia is one of the biggest blind folds in life"
This is for sure one of your better posts on OSO...
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Old 07-23-2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
A 50 Nortech, 46 Rough Rider, or a 47/52 Outerlimits will run circles around a 41 Apache with equal power and in any water.

With the market today, you can pickup all of them for under what they are asking for Allez Vite, Tonto, and Tatonka.

Todays tech is way ahead of the old straight bottom resin buckets and somebody on here had a good saying a little while back: "Nostalgia is one of the biggest blind folds in life"
And any of those will be made with modern engineering and materials, not to mention it will have significantly better amenities. Kind of like comparing a '67 Stingray with a tri-power 427 to a 2014 ZR1. The classics are nice, but for everyday usability and relatively effortless performance, go new.
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Old 07-23-2014 | 09:37 AM
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hmmm these last posts are definitely opposite of what I thought the opinions would be... CIG rough rider is definitely a classy ride.
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Old 07-23-2014 | 09:44 AM
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i also think 41 apache videos we're comparing regular pleasure boats to are skewed... most apache videos running on edge are full race boats with a team of racers in it...

still not sure an apache can be topped in the rough... i enjoy the different views - carry on.

edit - final thought lol. running circles around something one race is different than 20 years of being drug into battle...

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Old 07-23-2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PigNaPoke
hmmm these last posts are definitely opposite of what I thought the opinions would be... CIG rough rider is definitely a classy ride.
Actually the 46 RR suffers from the same issue as the Apaches......You can buy one cheap (compared to new) but the cost to run/maintain them can easily exceed the purchase price. Jeremy had the American Muscle II and outlined multiple updates (refresh 1075s/#6's, paint re-touch at TAOD) and after spending 150K+ he simply sold it to Shogren for like 245K.....the boat then changed hands 3-4 times within the next 2 years. The boat is awesome, the cost to buy it wasn't terrible but in the end it is/was an expensive boat to run! Lipship had it last (asking 259K)- http://lipship.com/used_boats/view/60

Many Apache owners have found themselves in the same situation despite owning a great offshore boat. IMO the last Apache that was a steal was the black 36, Bull Roar. Boat was uber maintained and lightly used by the original owner (multi-millionaire) and was sold after his death. Boat could be easily towed, stored and had a cool look (though all black isn't real practical).
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Old 07-23-2014 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PigNaPoke
i also think 41 apache videos we're comparing regular pleasure boats to are skewed... most apache videos running on edge are full race boats with a team of racers in it...

still not sure an apache can be topped in the rough... i enjoy the different views - carry on.

edit - final thought lol. running circles around something one race is different than 20 years of being drug into battle...
Part of the problem is that all the race footage you see from a helicopter is from 30 years ago, when nothing could keep up with an Apache, even in calm water, BUT THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO. Now they don't race in rough water, and they don't film the races from a helicopter, so there is no new footage, it doesn't mean that the new boats cant do it. Go on youtube and search for rough water footage from the last couple of years and it doesn't exist, I don't care what manufacturer you look up. Here is footage from 2010 Miami Grand Prix, I was personally there at the Fontainebleau, it was huge water, and I think any of the super vees or cats would have kicked blown an Apaches doors in. The new boats just make it look so effortless......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxiyeKqBDgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD6gk...KHgSXF-TAAUAzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-40d...KHgSXF-TAAUAzQ

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Old 07-23-2014 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ratman
list up the makes of the "new" boats that will run with an apache 41 in big water... please there are none...
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Old 07-23-2014 | 12:25 PM
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Yeah Hey.....This old Resin Bucket does it best! Not struggling like those new V's in smaller water. And the Apache build quality is super high, so even 30 years later they are still in the game. Great Powerboats!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uvkm5kKRXs

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Old 07-23-2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
Yeah Hey.....This old Resin Bucket does it best!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uvkm5kKRXs
Yup, here's the three lead boats, all of them B class, and the Apache is nowhere in sight, HMMMMM......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mITYTlIP0lw
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Old 07-23-2014 | 12:52 PM
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We'll see if those other powerboats are racing at 25 years old.
Or have any $ value at all? Or even exist? Before you can make the statement another powerboat is better it would first have to match the Apache in all aspects. If it doesn't, then it isn't.
Nice throttle work here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDgKQOiXpA

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