41 apache worth.
07-23-2014 | 04:19 PM
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Trying to compare the two is like apples and oranges...
You have a guy who walks into the showroom and buys a brand new vette with all the bellls and whistles
And then you have the guy that has lovingly rebuilt a 63 split window coupe from the frame up.
They both love their vettes, they both look at the other guys vette and say "damn thats sweet"
But they are two compeltely different cars and two completely different owners.
You have a guy who walks into the showroom and buys a brand new vette with all the bellls and whistles
And then you have the guy that has lovingly rebuilt a 63 split window coupe from the frame up.
They both love their vettes, they both look at the other guys vette and say "damn thats sweet"
But they are two compeltely different cars and two completely different owners.
07-23-2014 | 04:26 PM
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stielows camaro is the bomb, it was huge him smoking that vette, which had better weight dist, lover cd, was much wider, etc, etc, etc... thats how bad his camaro was, the new one will have better weight dist, wider stance, with more hp, and more rubber. you should watch this years optima shootout...
07-23-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Went to college with Mark in Rolla. Sharp guy, and very cool as well.
While beating a new 2012 ZL1 on the track at Gingerbread with Red Devil, his latest '69 Camaro, he also admitted Red Devil was more of a handful to drive, too. IE, more like a race car. Less refined, and mean. More brute force than the newer car with the bells and whistles.
Perhaps that comment/comparison pertains to boats as well.
While beating a new 2012 ZL1 on the track at Gingerbread with Red Devil, his latest '69 Camaro, he also admitted Red Devil was more of a handful to drive, too. IE, more like a race car. Less refined, and mean. More brute force than the newer car with the bells and whistles.
Perhaps that comment/comparison pertains to boats as well.
07-23-2014 | 04:54 PM
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Wait, that was a typo, you meant lower CG. My bad. Back to discussing old resin buckets.
07-23-2014 | 06:24 PM
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07-23-2014 | 06:30 PM
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07-23-2014 | 06:35 PM
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I don't for a second think that's just the apache's or 46 RR! What Jeremy did with AM II was going over the top, full rebuilds through Merc, drives, TAOD paint, updating everything, etc was far from "routine" or related to owning just that one model of boat. That stuff would be very expensive if it was a 40' Hustler or a 46 Cig. If you send all your stuff out to Merc for engine rebuilds (which was crazy $ at the time), TAOD for new paint, etc it's going to get expensive and few people routinely do this (for obviou$ rea$on$). Not to mention when he sold AM II, he basically dumped it at the time (during the depression no less) dropping the price $5k every hour until it sold! It's hard to use that one boat to definitively categorize all boats of the same model based on his unique situation during a depression. Anyone that did the same with a 46 or 51 OL would have went through the same losses.
Regardless, I do agree any large boat with big power will cost a lot to own and will take a good hit in depreciation from when new... they are very expensive to build, run, maintain, so there's a limited market for them and resale reflects that... period.
With that said, while a 41 Apache is truly an awesome boat, I completely agree with 302 that the larger step bottom boats would/will walk away from the equally powered/driven legendary 41 straight bottom in almost all conditions, including the rough as there's just no substitute for the additional running length and more efficient bottoms/modern construction. If the 41 Apache would still be competitive today, they would still be routinely running (and winning with) those old flat bottom resin buckets on the rougher race courses. Regardless, I still love seeing them run. They were awesome then and they still are today!
Regardless, I do agree any large boat with big power will cost a lot to own and will take a good hit in depreciation from when new... they are very expensive to build, run, maintain, so there's a limited market for them and resale reflects that... period.
With that said, while a 41 Apache is truly an awesome boat, I completely agree with 302 that the larger step bottom boats would/will walk away from the equally powered/driven legendary 41 straight bottom in almost all conditions, including the rough as there's just no substitute for the additional running length and more efficient bottoms/modern construction. If the 41 Apache would still be competitive today, they would still be routinely running (and winning with) those old flat bottom resin buckets on the rougher race courses. Regardless, I still love seeing them run. They were awesome then and they still are today!
