I don't for a second think that's just the apache's or 46 RR! What Jeremy did with AM II was going over the top, full rebuilds through Merc, drives, TAOD paint, updating everything, etc was far from "routine" or related to owning just that one model of boat. That stuff would be very expensive if it was a 40' Hustler or a 46 Cig. If you send all your stuff out to Merc for engine rebuilds (which was crazy $ at the time), TAOD for new paint, etc it's going to get expensive and few people routinely do this (for obviou$ rea$on$). Not to mention when he sold AM II, he basically dumped it at the time (during the depression no less) dropping the price $5k every hour until it sold! It's hard to use that one boat to definitively categorize all boats of the same model based on his unique situation during a depression. Anyone that did the same with a 46 or 51 OL would have went through the same losses.

Regardless, I do agree any large boat with big power will cost a lot to own and will take a good hit in depreciation from when new... they are very expensive to build, run, maintain, so there's a limited market for them and resale reflects that... period.

With that said, while a 41 Apache is truly an awesome boat, I completely agree with 302 that the larger step bottom boats would/will walk away from the equally powered/driven legendary 41 straight bottom in almost all conditions, including the rough as there's just no substitute for the additional running length and more efficient bottoms/modern construction. If the 41 Apache would still be competitive today, they would still be routinely running (and winning with) those old flat bottom resin buckets on the rougher race courses. Regardless, I still love seeing them run. They were awesome then and they still are today! :cool:

It would be really interesting to hear from someone who has actually run or been in both a 41 Apache and any of the newer 40' plus boats. Someone on here must have at some point, please speak up! I love the 41 and its clones and would guess that due to the extra weight they are probably more "comfortable" to run at speed in big water, while the newer stuff would be faster but a bit more of a handful. Also, how come no one brings up the Cig Marauder? I know it's a rarity but with that size and weight it must be a wave crusher?

Steve Nykamp is your man, he's been in a lot of the newer powerboats, owns Allez Vite, and is honest with his reviews.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm0RPcePjL0

Trying to compare the two is like apples and oranges...

You have a guy who walks into the showroom and buys a brand new vette with all the bellls and whistles

And then you have the guy that has lovingly rebuilt a 63 split window coupe from the frame up.

They both love their vettes, they both look at the other guys vette and say "damn thats sweet"

But they are two compeltely different cars and two completely different owners.

BUT the guy with the older vette will not and cannot tell you his vette will perform like a new one..........

Ok, we've tripped the lights fantastic, now back to the question the Original Poster asked. How Much are those 41 Apache Powerboats worth?
Good question. Pricey toys indeed.

No, but I can tell you that watching her race gymkhanas in it when I was a kid definitly put a big smile on her face and I can say driving that car today is still a blast!

Worth is a relative word but like I have stated before that a staggered 41 with 6's and blower motors is worth anywhere from $75k to low $100K's depending on condition (as has been seen from recent sales) if your using real market value as a reference. Just because people list something at double what its market value is, doesn't mean its worth that, yeah maybe to the one person that owns it, but that's about it. Also, just because you just spent $300K refurbishing the boat, doesn't make it worth $300K. That's not the way it works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_value

Obviously these boats aren't going to be auctioned, but usually if you want to sell something like this where there aren't hundreds of them out there to compare, the best way is to start high, then cut your price by 5% a month until it is sold.

Actually, I like the way you Apache guys think and I made my boat "worth more" today by upping my asking price to $339k........ http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o55145-en.html

You mad that dudes are asking the same for their 47' apaches?

Rent a chopper and get us some bad ass big wave footage. That would definitely raise the value!

I'm kind of suspect of these newer light layup boats. I hear about a velocity breaking up or seeing that donzi cracked in half leads me to believer they can't handle the abuse of the old school boats. Of course this evidence is anecdotal. Do you think the black donzi would have survived the Razz video? Can an apache survive the donzi video? Idk

It's a good thing there are some guys out there with enough money and love for an Apache to keep some of them going. Sadly the remainder with fade away.