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rfgonzo 08-06-2014 12:01 PM

Legally they cannot hold somebody more than 48 hours if they don't have all their information and evidence put together within a 48 hour time they have to let him go.

TW720HVY 08-06-2014 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by rfgonzo (Post 4166494)
Legally they cannot hold somebody more than 48 hours if they don't have all their information and evidence put together within a 48 hour time they have to let him go.

Oh, you mean our Country has Due Process?!?

Man, has our society's mindset turned into a 'guilty until proven otherwise'.

JRider 08-06-2014 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by TW720HVY (Post 4166640)
Oh, you mean our Country has Due Process?!?

Man, has our society's mindset turned into a 'guilty until proven otherwise'.

Don't let him kid you. For alcohol offenses that is typically the way it is. That's why I wondering why there are no charges yet. Soft prosecutor? Or fair prosecution?

TW720HVY 08-06-2014 05:51 PM

That was me trying to be sarcastic, I guess what I was trying to say is there's a reason why we no longer burn witches at the stake.

I have no idea why, but I do know there's a process.

As of right now no one except the driver, arresting officer(s) and District Attorney truly knows if alcohol was actually involved and indeed the reason behind this tragic event. Now people are thinking he's going to be a "flight risk" when in fact none of us truly know all the facts or better yet his character. Sorry, a text message from a friend of a friend doesn't count in a court of law or the kangaroo court of OSO.

rockstar342 08-12-2014 01:39 PM

I had a run in with the same boat two weeks prior to this devastating accident. This boat passed by my port side within 50 feet travelling at least 45-50mph. The driver actually cut between the channel markers of the Clinton river which is a very congested water way due to a large launch ramp and numerous marinas on any given weekend. The boat was chine walking and bouncing loosely over the confused waves due to the heavy boat traffic. The boat nosed dived into a fairly large wave and suddenly pulled hard to port. If it had gone to starboard, the boat would have crashed into my port side were my wife and two young sons were sitting on the lounge. The boat then regained control and roared off in front of me to avoid the congestion of two large marinas that have hundreds of boats anchored in shallow water on any given weekend. The boat had 5 occupants in total and the driver and passengers were actually high fiving and fist pumping like this was the coolest thing. I was furious with the driver and even remarked that his day was coming. Karma. Now 2 innocent people are dead. I was sick to find out that this was the same boat involved. Irresponsible boating needs to end. Mix inexperience, adrenaline and alcohol and the end result is usually tragic. Thoughts and prayers to the families impacted.

10x 08-13-2014 05:40 AM

Just a sad story for all involved. And some people wonder why I refuse to have a drink with my friends when I have my boat in the water.

JRider 01-09-2015 10:23 AM

Any update on this?

low_psi 01-09-2015 12:40 PM

I saw something in the paper or online, he pled guilty to a manslaughter charge and I don't think he has been sentenced as of yet (or at least that I have read).

rockstar342 01-09-2015 12:47 PM

Plead guilty in December. 2 counts OWI causing death,10 yr felony, 1 count OWI causing great bodily harm, 5 yr felony. The guy is in his early thirtys. This is his 4th DUI. Three on the road. Was also arrested in 2013 a couple of times for assault and battery, and in 2014 for drunk and disorderly. His BAC was 0.105 6 hours after accident. Michigan has now passed a law to reduce the BAC limit for recreational vehicles to match that of cars to 0.08. Was 0.1. Boat was registered in his girlfriends name, and it is reported that she knowingly allowed him to drive intoxicated. Her life is pretty much ruined as well. A senseless tragedy that should never have occured. Sentencing Jan 20th. Figuring 5-10yrs with concurrant sentencing.

Comanche3Six 01-09-2015 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar342 (Post 4246744)
Plead guilty in December. 2 counts OWI causing death,10 yr felony, 1 count OWI causing great bodily harm, 5 yr felony. The guy is in his early thirtys. This is his 4th DUI. Three on the road. Was also arrested in 2013 a couple of times for assault and battery, and in 2014 for drunk and disorderly. His BAC was 0.105 6 hours after accident. Michigan has now passed a law to reduce the BAC limit for recreational vehicles to match that of cars to 0.08. Was 0.1. Boat was registered in his girlfriends name, and it is reported that she knowingly allowed him to drive intoxicated. Her life is pretty much ruined as well. A senseless tragedy that should never have occured. Sentencing Jan 20th. Figuring 5-10yrs with concurrant sentencing.

His 4th DUI!!!!!
They need to bury him under the prison.
My prayers for those killed/harmed and their families.


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