Ben Kramer to be released!?!?

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10-15-2014 | 08:46 AM

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buck35

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I seem to be missing a block of time in my memory from that era, I am pretty sure it went up in smoke. Lol

10-15-2014 | 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jusabum

Ben was THE money man who built the Apache name to icon status through serious cash, racing and being a bad-boy. McManus was the brains behind the Apache boat business that had Ben's huge cash infusions to make it successful in spite of anything and everything - and he did it well.

Kind of forgetting somebody there aren't you? Like the guy that designed the boats and throttled them and is still building new boats that are winning long distance races...

10-15-2014 | 09:01 AM

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All Im saying is that I lived in southern california at that time.....

10-15-2014 | 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin

Kind of forgetting somebody there aren't you? Like the guy that designed the boats and throttled them and is still building new boats that are winning long distance races...

This thread is about Ben Kramer. Again, Ben's money literally built Apache into a successful boat business. The 41 was an Aronow designed boat, nothing special, except that there was a ton of money to make it run strong. Keith, Bobby and Tommy all helped and got a nice ride, but without the cash and notoriety, nothing big would have ever happened.

10-15-2014 | 03:46 PM

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That is true

too bad the money wasn't from a legal resource though. Perhaps they all could have gone a lot further.

10-15-2014 | 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymonza

That is true

too bad the money wasn't from a legal resource though. Perhaps they all could have gone a lot further.

Apache was getting into cats. Also the first 47 V was built. Apache Powerboats had a full head of steam!

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10-15-2014 | 05:12 PM

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phragle

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Yeah but, it's mostly Labrador....

First concert type deal I ever went to was cheach and chong, they did a live tour after up in smoke came out

10-15-2014 | 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymonza

EHH man Choo want some Columbian Gold , I Geeetzzssa some for choo/

Be right BOCK

We used to get great weed up in Michigan when i was a teen. Moved to SW Fl back in 84 and al they had down here was Mexican crap weed. But hey if you wanted Yea it was great and CHEAp cheap.

Ben had the hookup on the Colombian thing but most everybody I knew it was Mexican or coming through Mexico.

In all my years in Fl I never saw any thing that was near what we used to get up in Michigan until the kids here started with their Hydroponic stuff.

actually for the decade before hydro the market over here was flooded with California

yea i remember the dirt weed we use to get around chi town..my girlfriend at the time use to baby sit these kids and she found their stash cleaning their home..it was red weed..man that stuff was amazing and got you really stoned and lazy..they called it panama red weed and it was the best...