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242LS 11-27-2014 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 4226214)
Look at that ripple lol must be at least a 1/2" chop. Almost as rough as loto on shootout weekend.

I've been in stuff that rough - it's no picnic in anything under 40'

blown 11-27-2014 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4226270)
In 1974 the 35 foot Cigarette boat that was raced as Spirit and then Benihana, won the Bahamas 500.

Because of the so called oil shortage, the race was reduced down to just 303 miles.

The engines were Mercruiser engines of 600 HP each with SSM #3 drives.

For the entire 303 miles the boat averaged for the race.....83.4 MPH

Sorry banana you are wrong
http://books.google.com/books?id=9YF...arette&f=false
hehe just splitting hairs it was 82.9. So how is that possible? Were those boats much lighter than our cafes? Hurricane tailwind?

Full Force 11-27-2014 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by blown (Post 4226296)
Sorry banana you are wrong
http://books.google.com/books?id=9YF...arette&f=false
hehe just splitting hairs it was 82.9. So how is that possible? Were those boats much lighter than our cafes? Hurricane tailwind?

A race boat is going to be lighter then a full cabin pleasure boat...... thats for sure...

Top Banana 11-27-2014 12:27 PM

The race boats of 1974 were not that much lighter.

They had a CG that was well researched and the engines were staggered.

Props as compared to today were very primitive, no one ran 4 blades back then.

Top Banana 11-27-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by blown (Post 4226296)
Sorry banana you are wrong
http://books.google.com/books?id=9YF...arette&f=false
hehe just splitting hairs it was 82.9. So how is that possible? Were those boats much lighter than our cafes? Hurricane tailwind?

Now let's see, what you are referencing is an article written by Jane someone. I was looking at the race report written by John Crouse in SEARACE. I think I will stick with my number...LOL

Full Force 11-27-2014 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 4226373)
The race boats of 1974 were not that much lighter.

They had a CG that was well researched and the engines were staggered.

Props as compared to today were very primitive, no one ran 4 blades back then.

true, I will say after being on MANY boats and Cigs, the COG is one reason why the Mistress rides like it does, now if I could stagger it.... I bet it would be bad azz..... I have told guys ;look where my bolsters are compared to most.... now I am 260 lbs and a passenger.... great COG

blown 11-27-2014 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4226382)
true, I will say after being on MANY boats and Cigs, the COG is one reason why the Mistress rides like it does, now if I could stagger it.... I bet it would be bad azz..... I have told guys ;look where my bolsters are compared to most.... now I am 260 lbs and a passenger.... great COG

For my understanding, your bolsters/helm are further astern than a cafe?

Full Force 11-27-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blown (Post 4226384)
For my understanding, your bolsters/helm are further astern than a cafe?

Not sure, but a Cafe does not ride as flat as mine, been on a few of each.... I never need tab to keep bow down at all, not sure what way ASTERN is lol I'm dumb


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mbobb 11-27-2014 05:52 PM

I looked at a few pictures and it seems like the Mistress and Cafe's have a similar cockpit space between the front and back seats but it looks like the Mistress has a longer engine bay.....it almost looks like there's enough room in the engine bays to stagger them. Not sure on the exact measurements but it looks like the Mistress front seats are more forward than the Cafe's.

Full Force 11-27-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mbobb (Post 4226480)
I looked at a few pictures and it seems like the Mistress and Cafe's have a similar cockpit space between the front and back seats but it looks like the Mistress has a longer engine bay.....it almost looks like there's enough room in the engine bays to stagger them. Not sure on the exact measurements but it looks like the Mistress front seats are more forward than the Cafe's.

They are forward at least a foot, that makes a difference I am sure, especially when comparing to a Bravo boat you lose a foot to the lack of trans also, my engine compartment is a little bigger then a cafe... I have almost 3 ft in front of engines...

hers pics, one is next to Skramers cafe, you can see the seat difference, boats were tied together perfect side by side.... COG is totally different..

I will tell you my ride on Skramers cafe in Lake Erie 3-5's is what sold me on Cigs, he was the one that told me the Mistress was even better ride... I would own a Cafe in a heartbeat, very good boat.

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