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Smarty 12-15-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SPITFIRE (Post 4235017)
Het Smarty, that wasn't the old Damn Magnum that was up in the Boston area was it?

No, it is and always has been a New Jersey boat, and has always been "the Hairy Canary" other that when new it was a yellow 27' Magnum sport, with twin 350cu.in./395hp MerCruiser Tempest engine package

(I am not sure why the picture I attached wont' open)

Smarty 12-15-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Omni Present (Post 4234200)
I'm a twin guy smarty and my next boat will be a cat need to see what I'm missing out on. I've learned that I don't play well with the south shore guys so I choose to play in the Hampton's where Im a home owner thanks for the comment. Smarty I respect your opinion if I did get another V bottom hull it will probably be a classic Cigarette what's your favorite and why?

What's my favorite, not sure if I have a favorite V bottom, here is the unrealistic favorite (meaning I cannot afford it) a OL SV43' (sitdown pleasure boat); why is the SV43 my favorite? 1. It looks good, 2.it is fast, 3. well built, 4.won't be obsolete in a 10 years, and did I mention it is the fastest boat out there today (sort in point #2).

A boat I can afford would be a 27' Magnum, after having ridden in one for 19 years I know what to expect or a 30' Sutphen, I can realistically afford those boats, they are predictable, ride good, no surprises, or have Will Smith build a new 32' Phantom (if you ask he will build it) with Ilmor staggered small blocks, which is not too far out of my monthly payment reach. My favorite brand is Skater, everything else is a distant second, but you asked about V-bottom.

55excl 12-16-2014 05:52 PM

I am trying to PM you please free up some space in your PM's

Originally Posted by Omni Present (Post 4234657)
Interesting analogy never been in a 24' Skater although I was gonna buy one when I bought my 24' SuperBoat. The individual who at the time was counseling me loved the boat but highly recommend I not buy it due to the waters i boat in saying that the skater would not ride well at all in those conditions. nevertheless I'm a huge fan of the look and speed there capable of. As far as the hull comparison I can only comment on my experience coming from the 24' SuperBoat the Progression is a much more user friendly interior cockpit and cabin. Driving one on the other hand the Progression difinitely has a learning curve much steeper then the SuperBoat but once mastered is soooo much faster and better suited for my conditions with the exception of when things get really big and that I believe is all about set up on the Progression however time will tell. Thanks for the feedback Team Saris love your work and congratulations on your World Championships......


Dave M 12-16-2014 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 4234969)
He won't know your reference, but I do.....I would always want to be in a 27' progression over a 22' Stingray anyday of the week

Man....We've been on this site for 15 yrs! I don't remember how long ago the Triple Digits thing was but it was pretty funny. Someone like him comes along every few yrs.

I'm sure this Progression is pretty fast, but comparing it to a cat? When I watch the videos I see a boat trimmed to the moon on pretty flat water. If that's where the boat is run, it probably is a contender.

In my local waters if you are running in the 90's, you would not be getting passed often. However, the water conditions usually say that a 27' boat is going to be limited to much lower speeds.

Omni Present 12-21-2014 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Dave M (Post 4235794)
Man....We've been on this site for 15 yrs! I don't remember how long ago the Triple Digits thing was but it was pretty funny. Someone like him comes along every few yrs.

I'm sure this Progression is pretty fast, but comparing it to a cat? When I watch the videos I see a boat trimmed to the moon on pretty flat water. If that's where the boat is run, it probably is a contender.



In my local waters if you are running in the 90's, you would not be getting passed often. However, the water conditions usually say that a 27' boat is going to be limited to much lower speeds.

Most of the videos where from the CT River run and on that day she definitely was a contender against that particular cat. Now let me preface they definitely had talent on throttles and driving however maybe the 300xs are old and tired I don't know I just know I've been boating long enough to know when someone is sand bagging. Plus I have cockpit video I just can't up load it different format I guess. However I was not comparing my boat to like powered cat I was just seeing if anyone had one a V bottom cat killer and the happy cat people jumped right in to put me in place....... FYI had a 24' SuperBoat huge fan of the 30y2k! In my home waters off the eastern end of Long Island water conditions routinely dictate usually a much slower speed then I can run on the river.....

Omni Present 12-21-2014 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by chewymalone (Post 4235054)
I'm not irritated. I just think there's a 90+% probability of two things... 1) Your boat is slower than you proclaim and 2) You're a douche.

And by the way... sanctioned racing is a "sport", what we do is a "hobby".

I'm a lyer and or a douche interesting coming from a guy with with the ugliest paint scheme on OSO I hope your boat is fast because I wouldn't let my dog be seen in it let alone pay someone to own it.......

Toffen 12-22-2014 12:10 AM

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Hi!

A Will Smith 30 feet Phantom with 2 x 300xs will run in excess of 100 mph. However, thats a lightweight design too. A Tuff 28 will do the same. Also a low profile lightweight boat.

A friend of mine raced a Skater 28 with twin Merc 2.5 EFI in Dubai. He told me he did 110-115 all day ��

And then you have mine 30 years old Phantom 25 with twin Merc 2.5 EFI's. It ran 88 mph. Now I have a single 350 sci, run 81-82 mph and enjoying the ride, scenery and mpg (4,7)  Hopefully there will be a 400 hp out there next summer, and I will cruise 86-88 mph 

Cheers Toffen

Omni Present 12-22-2014 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Toffen (Post 4238344)
Hi!

A Will Smith 30 feet Phantom with 2 x 300xs will run in excess of 100 mph. However, thats a lightweight design too. A Tuff 28 will do the same. Also a low profile lightweight boat.

A friend of mine raced a Skater 28 with twin Merc 2.5 EFI in Dubai. He told me he did 110-115 all day ��

And then you have mine 30 years old Phantom 25 with twin Merc 2.5 EFI's. It ran 88 mph. Now I have a single 350 sci, run 81-82 mph and enjoying the ride, scenery and mpg (4,7)  Hopefully there will be a 400 hp out there next summer, and I will cruise 86-88 mph 

Cheers Toffen

Great examples thanks for sharing!

Toffen 12-22-2014 03:08 AM

Hi,

A Motion 25 with twin 250xs runs 106 mph. A Skater 28 with twin Promax 300 (not x) runs 110 mph.

Phantom 23 vee from UK with twin Merc 2.5 EFI runs between 112-115 mph. Thats fast indeed. However, this hull has a pad and notched transom. My 25 is made for offshore curcuit and runs very flat (long running surface, no pad, no notched transom and steep bow).

Someday I will buy a OL SV29 with a single 565. Set up correctly it runs 101 mph.

Cheers Toffen

spectras only 12-22-2014 03:26 AM

an older 25 warlock cat with twin 2.5 merc fishing motors will run 90. 30 Spectre with twin 300XS will top out to 104 on radar in light chop.
The only V bottom that could give these cats a hard time [ 122 mph] would be the Howard 28 Bullit with huge power in calm water.http://www.howardboats.com/boat_spec...28_bullet.html
I think the 30 Spectre is the best bang for the money and relatively cheap, buying used.

If money was no object, the 32 DW would be my choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-q9qOcIPUg


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