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JaxBoiler 12-15-2017 07:27 PM

Michael, thanks for taking time to answer all of my questions today. I’m excited to join the Nor-Tech club, and feel even better about it after speaking with you. I have a feeling I’ll bug you a few more times when my build goes to rigging.

NASCAT 12-15-2017 10:59 PM

Matt- my pleasure!
Congrats on the new boat, I think you are going to be pleased w/ the Nor-Tech.
Had you reached out to me sooner before laying down that deposit I could have saved you some time, $$$ + you’d be boating right now.��

payuppsucker 12-16-2017 02:56 PM

So you're selling????

NASCAT 12-16-2017 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4599748)
So you're selling????

Everything is for sale ALL the time, that way I don’t get too attached.
:party-smiley-004:

Ran C 06-14-2018 12:09 PM

I have a new 34' 3-350 Mercury's do you have any recommendations on props for max speed boat should be here in the next month.

NASCAT 06-14-2018 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ran C (Post 4631977)
I have a new 34' 3-350 Mercury's do you have any recommendations on props for max speed boat should be here in the next month.

Ran C- congrats on your purchase, you won't be disappointed.

I've owned 2, one topped out at 80, the other 81mph (equipped similarly) but this is not a comfortable ride trimmed way out and the top acting like a kite causing the boat to chine walk.
75mph is going to be about your max safe top speed IMO.

If I'm not mistaken it doesn't matter whether you buy a 34 or 39 w/ triple 350's or 400's they seem to always recommend Merc Rev 4 25p's which I guarantee your boat will come with.

Ran C 06-14-2018 12:23 PM

I talked to Bret at Bblade awhile back he suggested 26" 4-speed ob/fx said it should give +3 mph?

NASCAT 06-14-2018 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ran C (Post 4631980)
I talked to Bret at Bblade awhile back he suggested 26" 4-speed ob/fx said it should give +3 mph?

I can't say whether it will or won't but he certainly would know.

You originally asked about max speed. IMO if a prop gave you 5mph gain it is unusable based on stability.
With that said if the BBlade props provide you 3mph more at the same RPM from midrange on up then you certainly improved your efficiency and cruise speed.
Just depends what your goal is.

Ran C 06-14-2018 12:35 PM

Thanks for your input, very true if its not stabile the extra speed is of no use.

NASCAT 06-14-2018 12:41 PM

We got your post count up so now you can post pics of your boat as soon as she completes!

Ran C 06-14-2018 12:48 PM

I will post pic's when it arrives, went into rigging two weeks ago.

Marginmn 06-14-2018 01:17 PM

Nascat, speaking of your cat, as you know from experience, what is the difference between the Ilmor 725 and 710s in terms of swapping them out? Are the 725's strictly throttle and drive-by-wire or can you just swap a 710 out for a 725 without any modifications other than the gauges?

NASCAT 06-14-2018 01:27 PM

Those are 2 totally different engine platforms.
If I'm not mistaken the 725's also need to be paired w/ the Indy Drive.
What I will say is that they were able to get my 710's which were old school mechanical linkage to talk to the Indy Drives that were intended to be drive by wire.
Sounds like a question for ILMOR.

Ran C 06-16-2018 10:03 AM

I texed my dealer on Thursday,he replied,I will reach out to Nor Tech for a update, didn't hear anything back. But when I call dealer Rep. at Nor Tech I always get a answer, but than the dealer gets mad when I call direct.So what do I do.I had the Janurary 1st slot.When your spending over $400k for a boat I think they should keep you updated.

NASCAT 06-16-2018 10:20 PM

I agree, you should be kept in the loop w/ some sort of routine updates.
IMO if you are dealing w/ someone that isn’t professional and or operates very loosely I would call them so you can speak directly to them as well as set the expectation. I try to keep individuals like this in a tight box.

if the dealer got miffed at me for going to the manufacturers rep in order to receive a progress report I’d be making sure the dealer understood that this was his own doing and basically a cause and effect matter that could have been avoided by some basic communication.

This is may not be your style but I’m a Type A individual so I typically hold others to the same level of accountability I do myself.

in summary keeping tapping into the resource that provides you the info you seek in a timely manner.

Ran C 06-17-2018 08:45 AM

Thanks for your input,Iam going to take your advise and reach out to the dealer and tell them if you don't want to do your job I'll do it for you. I think you should alway be kept in the loop I shouldn't have call to press the issue.

Ran C 07-14-2018 11:56 AM

Does anyone know if I don't get my 34' till August can it be title as a 2019 boat.

NASCAT 07-14-2018 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Ran C (Post 4637659)
Does anyone know if I don't get my 34' till August can it be title as a 2019 boat.

Almost positive June is when the production year changes so you would most likely end up w/ a 2019.

Ran C 07-22-2018 09:44 AM

Findley got back to me on Friday said it would be a 2019, at this rate it may be a 2020."Joking" I think?

Ran C 08-10-2018 01:42 PM

Still waiting on boat Sept 1st will be 8 month from the January slot that I had should be done by then. Told it would be a 16 week build.So if your waiting for a 34'NT thats the deal.

NASCAT 08-12-2018 09:46 PM

I believe 16 weeks or 4mos is pretty typical for a build, that's been my experience.
Nor-Tech just added another spray booth and built a 50,000sq ft building they plan to move all rigging to.
Main facility will handle lamination and paint.

We can compare notes since I've held a production slot since Feb (Miami Boat Show) that SportBoats Marine actually secured prior then put my name on it. I believe it's only a week or 2 out from going in the mold. Not knowing when SportBoats reserved the production date and assuming this boat completes right around the end of the year or first of next year, that's nearly 1 yr from the time the production slot was committed to.

Headed down to Nor-Tech in 2 wks to review the build.

pmanpop 08-13-2018 12:38 PM

Just read the entire thread from start to finish. Thank you for sharing your entire experience with both builds. Really informative and gives those that haven't built a boat with Nor-Tech an insight to their process.

NASCAT 08-13-2018 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by pmanpop (Post 4643393)
Just read the entire thread from start to finish. Thank you for sharing your entire experience with both builds. Really informative and gives those that haven't built a boat with Nor-Tech an insight to their process.

pmanpop- Now that was a commitment in both your time & attn span.
Maybe I need to create a CliffNotes post summarizing everything.
I'm thinking the pictures are what most want to see.

Thanks for the kind words.

NASCAT 08-13-2018 09:11 PM

Paint
 
Working w/ NT on some paint options.https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3728693b44.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0985e083de.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7420dd39de.jpg

GatorMD 08-13-2018 09:57 PM

I think they are all pretty great. From what I can tell you typically go for pretty neutral color ways? Surprised at the 2nd choice with the red accent- but I'm digging it. Im planning on working an accent into the hard top too. That being said. Im a fan of Duex and the red. Maybe even a nice red "R" if you go for the 400's in addition to the black mercury!

NASCAT 08-13-2018 10:08 PM

I prefer clean contrasting colors but also try to select timeless color combos that won’t impact me at time of resale. So far I’m 2 for 2.


Cash Bar 08-13-2018 10:13 PM

No 1 would be cool with a silver boot stripe. All 3 are nice though.

NASCAT 08-14-2018 04:54 AM

I like #1 although I think it resembles a Cig CC Scheme too much. Tough to do much w/ a NT Hull bc the hullsides are much shorter & allot of the hull is below the water when the boat is not moving so IMO your paint scheme has 2 different looks running and floating.

bill63 08-14-2018 05:50 AM

I like red 😁

NASCAT 08-14-2018 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by bill63 (Post 4643549)
I like red 😁

Call me surprised :party-smiley-004:
Your the only NT owner I know, willing to go where no other NT owner is when it comes to graphics / paint and I commend you for that.
I'm surprised more don't follow your lead especially since you've done so w/ 2 consecutive builds.:ernaehrung004:

JaxBoiler 08-14-2018 06:24 AM

I was at the factory three weeks ago checking on progress of my build. It seems that blue is the favorite color by far. Most of the boats near completion seemed to have a shade of blue as the dominant color in the scheme.

Nascat are are you having the bottom painted black? I know they can mix a color into the gel coat when laying the boat up, but I believe if you do that the color is the same from the rub rail down.

I like that dark dark bottom look, curious what’s the best way to accomplish that?

Knot 4 Me 08-14-2018 06:30 AM

I'm digging #2.

NASCAT 08-14-2018 07:54 AM

Jax,

I tend to agree w/ you on the blue and I started down that path w/ a color called Silverstone found on BMW's but I felt like it took the sportiness look away from the boat & would make it look like a tender color matched to it's mother ship.

You are correct the entire hull will be black gel so everything above the chines & transom will need to be painted. It's not color added to white gel, they order black gel. I say this b/c they insisted that I commit to a decision no later than last Fri as it must be ordered which means I'm definitely in the mold soon.


Originally Posted by JaxBoiler (Post 4643556)
I was at the factory three weeks ago checking on progress of my build. It seems that blue is the favorite color by far. Most of the boats near completion seemed to have a shade of blue as the dominant color in the scheme.

Nascat are are you having the bottom painted black? I know they can mix a color into the gel coat when laying the boat up, but I believe if you do that the color is the same from the rub rail down.

I like that dark dark bottom look, curious what’s the best way to accomplish that?


NASCAT 08-14-2018 08:04 AM

I want something that has some pop to it vs. Jet Black. Stumbled across this Cadillac color called Black Diamond. It came on CTS V's several years back. Nor-Tech is going to have a panel sprayed out for me to look at next week. Might be too bass boat metal flake for my liking.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f2b37e2cda.jpg

NASCAT 08-14-2018 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4643558)
I'm digging #2.

Knot- this is where image #2 was derived from. I actually would like to incorporate the metallic silver too. The DCB stripes all appear to be metallic & really pop against what appears to be a pearl white base.
As I mentioned previously I try to keep the paint scheme's clean & timeless looking for the benefit of resale.https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0f5a5d0069.png
Can you tell I collect pics and ideas for the future even if the future never comes?
The DCB pic has to be 3yrs old. :lolhit:
Even has the black hull!

bill63 08-14-2018 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4643547)
I like #1 although I think it resembles a Cig CC Scheme too much. Tough to do much w/ a NT Hull bc the hullsides are much shorter & allot of the hull is below the water when the boat is not moving so IMO your paint scheme has 2 different looks running and floating.

Kinda Funny.. Nortech copied my first 39 twice, when I *****ed they said it should be a honor because I have good taste. My second one Mitcher t copied it but with a different color. Oh well already thinking about colors/design for the next one.....

mlb75 08-15-2018 08:31 AM

I like the red, it adds a little pop of color. I'd like to see what the first one would look like with the top strip in black and all the ones below in red. Maybe even do the top of the hardtop in black with the red trim... The black diamond paint is gorgeous but is a lot of flake and just hope it never has to be touched up, any heavy metallic is tough to blend but that one is a nightmare from what I've seen. If you use it I'd recommend it for a stripe not for large areas because it's so dominant when used with other colors, any colors around it need to also really pop or they end up looking dull.

Also I'd keep the console area white, the black may look cool but will end up hot to the touch for the sun and be a nightmare to keep clean with all the hand prints etc that will end up on it.

NASCAT 08-15-2018 09:09 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e0bdc9dbd7.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...538e131a5f.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3f4b9ecdc4.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cf5244d992.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...20e869964d.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...306abff7ea.jpg
All great ideas and feedback. What is interesting is No One has mentioned image #3 which is where this all started & the one I like best and will probably pursue.
It was derived from the attached Cig and still needs some work but I try not to wear out Nor-Tech's graphic artist. Allot of time the final details are accomplished during the masking off of the boats and stripes.
Image #3 stripes need to taper as they approach the bow and wrap around the side.

The interior paint will most likely remain white similar to the 100mph 390 pictured. I'm undecided on the hardtop color, the edge and or underside.
The engine paint from a recent NT 450 I stumbled across which if you look close are actually brown & white.

The Black Diamond paint would only end up in the hull side stripes if at all. I just need to see it and agree it would be difficult to repair or blend.. As I mentioned I don't want plane solid color stripes. Looking for something different.

I also agree w/ the black interior paint being hot & non-functional as black looks best when it's shiny and clean & thats simply too much for a boat I plan to use and enjoy. In fact I already learned my lesson on the first 340 (pictured)

The interior upholestry and SeaDek flooring will be used to add some color and detail to the interior since I don't plan to paint the cockpit helm, seat stations or cooler.

Sydwayz 08-15-2018 09:21 AM

Have you thought about having the bottom of the boat Metallic Silver vs. Black?

NASCAT 08-15-2018 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4643801)
Have you thought about having the bottom of the boat Metallic Silver vs. Black?

As in the hull bottom??
Thats not something I'd be interested in.
I'm sure the gel is available since there are many bass and wake board boats w/ that look but keep in mind doing so would REALLY limit the resale market for me.


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