Originally Posted by 1MOSES1

i just read you what the cigarette magazine claims for a t/s boat. 9900 pounds. my owners manual for the flat bottom gun says 12,500 dry weight. guess you will have to take that up with cigarette.



your buddy with the 650's should learn how to drive because our boat with 500efis (470 hp) with 4 people just about touches 70 maybe 68-69. sorry. i have GPS to confirm it.




Yet another sub 10k boat. Ok...we are back to comparing weight and not steps.



3 flat bottom cigarettes just sold in the past week. must be a weak market. and to clarify, i am not arguing the t/s boats are 10% faster...but that is inclusive of being lighter, etc. it just doesnt have to do with steps.

Originally Posted by sutphen 30

heres a question

if not tab or trim right,,can the stepped cigs porpoise.I know my friends 1989 38 TG can.

Originally Posted by 1MOSES1

our boat doesnt hop under 70mph. we run it routinely in the ct river where its glass. just a fyi.

Originally Posted by jbraun2828

Does your boat hop over 70mph? With your logic, why doesn't cig build a straight bottom with lighter materials and shorter drives if there's no difference with steps. After all, straight bottoms are better in rough water, according to straight bottom owners. Have you ever ridden in a stepped boat?

Originally Posted by cig92

my title on my 37 ol says 9200, my 38 cig 8400, my 41 apache 10.500, my 41 velocity 11000, 27 mag 7000, maybe the title was just kidding dk.

Originally Posted by jbraun2828

Twin steps do not porpoise at any speed or any water conditions

Originally Posted by nova26

Where's the video of the TG with the 700?/750?Zuls eating everyone up in a poker run? If you've seen it you know what I'm talking about. Haven't seen it in a couple of years. Bad ass sh!t