A boating accident in Boston
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Horrible.. poor girl lost her arm..
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Originally Posted by wananewboat
(Post 4311714)
http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/de...b0e7d92f6a40d8 Doh. |
Hard to find him guilty of a girl jumping on the prop.
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Depends. I doubt she lost the arm if the engine wasn't running and the prop turning.
As a society we always have an excuse.
Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4311757)
Hard to find him guilty of a girl jumping on the prop.
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Oh, something tells me he'll be found not guilty....
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12 people on board, who does that with a 29' boat, I've got a 35' boat and rarely have more than 6 and never have more than 8 in mine, WTF.
I wonder whose going to represent him. |
Seriously, though. In gear or not, I'm not getting withing 10 feet of the drive if the engine is running.
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Originally Posted by Greatguy66
(Post 4311863)
Surrender passport wow maybe he is a flight risk because of future law suit??
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With 12 people on board did he even know she went in after the cushion? I imagine it was a bit hectic on board even before the accident. Not defending him just saying maybe it wasn't entirely his fault
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sounds like a whole buncha people guilty of being drunk and stupid.
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4311980)
sounds like a whole buncha people guilty of being drunk and stupid.
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it was all because of a seat cuchon?? my my..i think it was not a smart move on her part..
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As I rule I don't make quick maneuvers to retrieve things. To many peoples first reaction to sun glasses flying off is to crank the wheel, fug that it's gone.
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I don't think you can blame her. He is the captain. It's his job to know what happens on his boat. Also he had 12 people and several were all underage. If they were drinking as well then that falls on him. The guy thought he could do anything he wanted because he is a lawyer and has money.
1: you don't have underage girls on your boat unless is yours or a friends child. 2: you kill the engines when someone goes in the water. 3:4 hours later he was still over the limit, he never should have been behind the wheel of anything. Just my .02 cents |
The boat was a 29' Chaparral Cruiser. 12 people on board is still a lot. I'm guessing the girl likely jumped in and the captain didn't know it. Lots of mistakes there. But the main thing is the guy was hammered. If he was .09 4 hrs. later, he was ripped at the time of the accident. Very tragic accident that just ruined the lives of 2 people!!
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Gee you don't think that is why he waited as long as he could to have them test him huh?
Who knows what happened right away but he sure knew how to cover his a$$ as much as he could. |
There were for sure several mistakes made, I think we all agree on that. I also think we can all agree the Captain was certainly over the limit and therefore has some responsibility(maybe all of it). But my first question is...if the boat was in gear and moving how did she get near the prop. If she jumped in with the boat in gear it would be only a split seconds and shes 10+ feet behind the boat and that distance is growing. She would have to be one heck of a swimmer to catch back up with the boat without the Captain stopping(putting it in neutral) especially dragging a boat cushion. Which is the second thing to ask, how did a boat cushion get in the water...could not have blown out if they were going slow enough for this girl to think she can jump and get it? Seems more likely the captain was backing back to the cushion with the girl on the platform trying to grab it and she falls in. That seems like a much more plausible way for her to get to the prop. Without police knowledge of actual witness accounts we may never know what happened for sure. Its sucks either way. Just my 2 cents.
John |
Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
(Post 4311758)
Depends. I doubt she lost the arm if the engine wasn't running and the prop turning.
As a society we always have an excuse. |
Originally Posted by jadento
(Post 4312145)
There were for sure several mistakes made, I think we all agree on that. I also think we can all agree the Captain was certainly over the limit and therefore has some responsibility(maybe all of it). But my first question is...if the boat was in gear and moving how did she get near the prop. If she jumped in with the boat in gear it would be only a split seconds and shes 10+ feet behind the boat and that distance is growing. She would have to be one heck of a swimmer to catch back up with the boat without the Captain stopping(putting it in neutral) especially dragging a boat cushion. Which is the second thing to ask, how did a boat cushion get in the water...could not have blown out if they were going slow enough for this girl to think she can jump and get it? Seems more likely the captain was backing back to the cushion with the girl on the platform trying to grab it and she falls in. That seems like a much more plausible way for her to get to the prop. Without police knowledge of actual witness accounts we may never know what happened for sure. Its sucks either way. Just my 2 cents.
John |
His defence will actually be the opposite. That his BAC actually increased as time wore on, meaning he was sober at the time of the incident.
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4312134)
Gee you don't think that is why he waited as long as he could to have them test him huh?
Who knows what happened right away but he sure knew how to cover his a$$ as much as he could. |
Just another thought...whats the water temperature in the Boston area now....looks like air temp is in the upper 40's low 50's today. Not normally the kind of weather your in your bathing suit and in a hurry to go diving in!
John |
This guy made so many mistakes he could easily get a job as a WP officer at LOTO.
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Originally Posted by 314joey
(Post 4312170)
This guy made so many mistakes he could easily get a job as a WP officer at LOTO.
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Somebody in the water near the boat ENGINE(S) OFF!!
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Originally Posted by jadento
(Post 4312145)
...how did a boat cushion get in the water...could not have blown out if they were going slow enough for this girl to think she can jump and get it? Seems more likely the captain was backing back to the cushion with the girl on the platform trying to grab it and she falls in. That seems like a much more plausible way for her to get to the prop...
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sad deal |
Just think if it had been one of those "Cigar go-fast boats"! John |
She may not have perceived the danger, if not around boating much. I wonder if boat cushion means fender.
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Originally Posted by Quick2500
(Post 4311868)
Seriously, though. In gear or not, I'm not getting withing 10 feet of the drive if the engine is running.
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Originally Posted by sea6
(Post 4312300)
She may not have perceived the danger, if not around boating much.
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Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 4312330)
Agree...I had a girl jump in the water when we were anchored one day in a cove, was oblivious about the outdrive...gashed her knee very badly and required stitches, we were not drinking BTW. I couldn't imagine not knowing about an outdrive, she never went out in boats and couldn't imagine all the machinery down there. From that point forward if there were people on my boat and they were not "boaters" I explained and showed people what was under the surface prior to them going overboard, that situation never happened again.
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And the plot thickens!
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Good story. Now they have to prove who was driving.
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That story paints a slightly different picture, which makes a bit more sense as to what happened. |
On board Urbelis’s 29-foot boat that day were four men in their 30s, including Urbelis, and nine women ages 19 to 22.
Lot of folks for a 29' boat, I wonder if whoever was driving was trying to round up everyone that was in the water. |
Terrible tragedy and I am not trying to make light of the situation. But who puts the name of their boat on the side of a cruiser?????
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BAck in the 80's it was pretty popular to do so ie: boat name on side.
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