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Papasmurf 08-15-2016 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4471112)
I expected you to be Blue !

Sounds badazz........

I am SB, just have my summer tan on!

Papasmurf 08-15-2016 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by MonkeySea2 (Post 4471152)
Wow, that thing really sounds mean!! I go to LKN every summer so I'll have to look out for you

Just Hollar ! Can show you all the watering holes

jeff32 08-15-2016 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4471094)

this sounds healthy and crispy !!! Sleeper for sure!!! nice work!

Papasmurf 08-15-2016 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4374422)
^^ +2 million. Heed the advice of griff.

Honestly if it were me, I would skip the idea altogether.

So glad I didnt listen to you sir

4mulafastech 08-15-2016 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Papasmurf (Post 4471205)
Gotta help on the slip, dont you think? Its like driving a car with a bad tranny. Catches and goes, then slips, then catches. After the boat gets above 65 the slip is not as noticable.
Main goal is to get engine RPMs past the peak of the torque curve and into the 5500 plus range

Any chance you get to try a different prop is a good thing.

Looking at slip, if your drive is 1.5:1, turning a 25" pitch at 5000 engine rpm at 73 mph, that calculates to 8% slip. This is low for a 3 blade and kind of indicates the drive is deep. You might find that even though the 4 blade is 24" pitch, the added blade might prevent the engine spinning up like you want.

It's just time for a shorty and surface running cleaver prop!


PS - My Dad's 20CL in post #45 was built special with a high X dimension and ran a 3 blade cleaver. Was a great combination for that hull. Results may vary though!

rak rua 08-15-2016 10:10 PM

There's quite a few of us serving 'humble pie' for dinner!

Congrats on getting the project done and achieving such a good result. I admit I was a doubter, guess it makes it all the more satisfying for you to do what many thought wouldn't work.

Nice videos, sounds great and it looks like the wife and family enjoy it to. Don't worry too much about totaling up the cost, the money's already spent, just enjoy.....

RR

SecondWind 08-16-2016 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Papasmurf (Post 4471105)
https://youtu.be/gGZP1ALe6T8 a little dock side idle action after getting it home to LKN.

Yes, its a Bowrider, and yes, I'm a fat dude ! lol

Damn that sounds great!

Papasmurf 08-16-2016 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4471410)
There's quite a few of us serving 'humble pie' for dinner!

Congrats on getting the project done and achieving such a good result. I admit I was a doubter, guess it makes it all the more satisfying for you to do what many thought wouldn't work.

Nice videos, sounds great and it looks like the wife and family enjoy it to. Don't worry too much about totaling up the cost, the money's already spent, just enjoy.....

RR

Thanks Bro............You have been a supporter of this project from the start!

Papasmurf 08-16-2016 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by 4mulafastech (Post 4471371)
Any chance you get to try a different prop is a good thing.

Looking at slip, if your drive is 1.5:1, turning a 25" pitch at 5000 engine rpm at 73 mph, that calculates to 8% slip. This is low for a 3 blade and kind of indicates the drive is deep. You might find that even though the 4 blade is 24" pitch, the added blade might prevent the engine spinning up like you want.

It's just time for a shorty and surface running cleaver prop!


PS - My Dad's 20CL in post #45 was built special with a high X dimension and ran a 3 blade cleaver. Was a great combination for that hull. Results may vary though!

My primary boat tech has a shorty we can try. Just trying to establish a base line with the current drive height so we can work from that. Once we get the engine to over 5500 RPM (I'm thinking the 23P will do it) and the boat speed, we can start playing with the lower height. will be out testing on Thursday. We have our LKN Fun Run on Saturday. Will see how it handles the chop of 40 other boats.

Thanks again for all your support during this project, its much appreciated!

Papasmurf 08-16-2016 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Papasmurf (Post 4459671)
A truer statement has never be spoken...............Just fired up engine and headers leak like hell! Lucky I bought them from a standup supplier thats well known, and is doing right by me.

So now I'm waiting on a new set from Diamond Marine........Will this ever end?

Come to find out, the "Stand Up Supplier" i bought the used headers from is not such a stand up business man after all.

2 Very well known marine engine builders call and tell you that the headers you sold their customer are leaking BADLY
I spend the freight to ship them back, only to be told that after he has "pressure tested them at a whooping 20 psi they are just fine. No problems
So he offers to put them up for sale again on line (since there is nothing wrong with them) and send me a check when they sell

Anyone on there think i'll ever see any of that money again?

I'm with holding his name from this board because I'm not an *******........................................... ...........YET


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