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Smitty 02-05-2016 07:50 AM

Aluminum trailers
 
Who besides Myco makes a great aluminum trailer ?? I am looking at a Baja 40 Outlaw and I need a trailer. It has to be heavy duty as the boat is big and heavy. Looking at Nextrail, Ameritrail. Any other ones out there I am missing ??

Edit : Myco and Manning are great trailers, but too pricey for me. Would like to be in the 10-12K range.


Thanks

Crude Intentions 02-05-2016 07:51 AM

Manning. Friend of mine has an AT on a custom painted manning. It's badass.

Sydwayz 02-05-2016 07:57 AM

If investing in a new trailer that I wanted to be top of the line:
-Myco
-Manning
-Evolution Trailers looks to be an up & comer:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/t...xperience.html

I would not put a bolt-together aluminum trailer under a 40' long boat.

sonicss42 02-05-2016 08:22 AM

Manning. Good people, good pricing, great trailers and on time delivery. Built one for my Sonic. Best thing I have done.

Taboma 02-05-2016 08:39 AM

I have a Manning for my Skater. Way over built and beautiful!

30ftpanther 02-05-2016 08:43 AM

http://www.platinumboattrailers.com/...tTrailers.html.

fandango 02-05-2016 08:55 AM

X2 on Manning. I have one on 42' Cigarette and 32' Fountain CC. If salt, look at their options closely. SS Calipers for disk brakes, galvanized axles.

Ed

fordf350 02-05-2016 09:02 AM

Pacific.

ToMorrow44 02-05-2016 10:05 AM

I saw a Manning under a 28 Donzi recently and it was impressive. All welded C-channel and looked like it was built like a tank. Not sure how expensive they are, but they would probably be the most convenient to you.

class6 02-05-2016 10:13 AM

Ultimate

Too Stroked 02-05-2016 10:13 AM

Manning or Myco. Can't go wrong with either of them.

boatnt 02-05-2016 10:23 AM

had a Manning built for one of my boats,boat I have now came with a Pacific,if I was looking for a trailer I would be calling Pacific.

wfo1 02-05-2016 10:34 AM

I have a 2015 platinum under my boat. I believe they are the same company as Nextrail. It's fine I guess for what it is, but I wouldn't put any of the I beam trailers in the same class as welded aluminum like Myco or Manning. I would take a steel trailer over any I beam any day, but I live a long way from salt.

1MOSES1 02-05-2016 11:45 AM

when the OP said no to myco, my guess its because of price. He can confirm for sure. With that said, mannings are close to the cost of myco's. So that might not be a viable option. I'd seriously consider a real extreme. They are in Miami. It's a boot together but one of the nicer ones available. They don't cut corners and you can upgrade on wheels, I beams, tires, brakes, etc. you will find they are competitively priced. Likely sub 11k.

NASCAT 02-05-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4400714)
If investing in a new trailer that I wanted to be top of the line:
-Myco
-Manning
-Evolution Trailers looks to be an up & comer:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/t...xperience.html

I would not put a bolt-together aluminum trailer under a 40' long boat.

I have an EVO, nice trailer & well built.
I think you'll find most top manufactures use the same off the shelf components (hubs, wheels, axles & brakes) so it comes down to the quality & workmanship. Like the integral ramps Evo incorporates into their builds just in case you find the end of the boat ramp the hard way.

PS- I HIGHLY recommend the Goodyear G614 RST Tires over Marathons or others. 14ply, 110psi, no sidewall crush/flex. Worth the extra $$ IMO

Sydwayz 02-05-2016 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 4400710)
Who besides Myco makes a great aluminum trailer ?? I am looking at a Baja 40 Outlaw and I need a trailer. It has to be heavy duty as the boat is big and heavy. Looking at Nextrail, Ameritrail. Any other ones out there I am missing ??

Edit : Myco and Manning are great trailers, but too pricey for me. Would like to be in the 10-12K range.


Thanks

Spend the money and go for a welded aluminum trailer.
ALL of the bolt-together aluminum trailers are a step BELOW the welded ones.

Source your own wheels & tires, HUNDREDS of threads on trailer tires. (BTW, don't by ST trailer tires.)
Also, make sure you go with EoH brakes as well.

Skimping on the trailer is not the place to save money on your boat purchase; ESPECIALLY if the boat is going to "live" on the trailer, and you will be towing it a lot.

Sydwayz 02-05-2016 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4400840)
I have an EVO, nice trailer & well built.
I think you'll find most top manufactures use the same off the shelf components (hubs, wheels, axles & brakes) so it comes down to the quality & workmanship. Like the integral ramps Evo incorporates into their builds just in case you find the end of the boat ramp the hard way.

PS- I HIGHLY recommend the Goodyear G614 RST Tires over Marathons or others. 14ply, 110psi, no sidewall crush/flex. Worth the extra $$ IMO

I have no personal experience with Evo, but your shared info is what had me add them to the list.

And holy fark that's a helluva tire! Just looked it up, and I totally get where you are coming from.

Smitty 02-05-2016 01:44 PM

I agree, no bolted together trailers. I looked at the Evolution site and they look very nice. And offer really heavy duty stuff. I will call them for sure.

badmonkey 02-05-2016 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4400840)
I have an EVO, nice trailer & well built.
I think you'll find most top manufactures use the same off the shelf components (hubs, wheels, axles & brakes) so it comes down to the quality & workmanship. Like the integral ramps Evo incorporates into their builds just in case you find the end of the boat ramp the hard way.

PS- I HIGHLY recommend the Goodyear G614 RST Tires over Marathons or others. 14ply, 110psi, no sidewall crush/flex. Worth the extra $$ IMO

Big fan of the integral ramps for those "end of ramp" days....very nice.

Sydwayz 02-05-2016 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 4400860)
I agree, no bolted together trailers. I looked at the Evolution site and they look very nice. And offer really heavy duty stuff. I will call them for sure.

McClain also builds an aluminum welded trailer. But I can't recommend them after watching the one that a friend owned over several years. On the first launch, the bow-stop gouged the keel near the bow pretty bad. It was NO WHERE NEAR the quality of Myco or Manning. After getting the bow stop redone, it was great for year one, but everything after that went downhill. It got to the point where the whole ass end of the trailer had to be re-enforced and welded, from one side to the other.

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noli 02-05-2016 02:33 PM

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My suggestion would be StrongBack Trailers ==> https://www.facebook.com/StrongbackTrailers/photos

If he doesn't already have the measurements for your boat, he will measure your boat himself. The measurements are then transferred to the CAD on a computer, and before the build is started, Quinton (owner, builder) would have a CAD drawing of the trailer for your boat. The bottom of your boat is measured accurately so that your boat is perfectly cradled by the trailer.

I towed a Strongback trailer for 1,800 miles for a friend. It wasn't carrying a boat.

I thought that I would be hearing rattling and squeaking whenever I hit a bump or pothole, but throughout the trip, I heard nothing but the sound of a very solid piece of equipment. The trailer pulled straight and was very easy to tow.

At night during the trip I always knew where the trailer was in the lane because the side markers are perfectly positioned throughout the trailer.

The winch and jack are great. The wheels are awesome and has the bling factor you want. You should check him out and the beautiful welds his crew does on any of the trailers being built in the shop.

Photo Credit: Strongback Trailers
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78CIG24 02-05-2016 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by wfo1 (Post 4400780)
I have a 2015 platinum under my boat. I belive they are the same company as loadmaster.

FYI, I believe Platinum is from Nextrail out of Ocala, regardless, definitely not same company as Loadmaster in Tampa.

Cheers,

Dave

Sydwayz 02-05-2016 03:33 PM

FWIW, there are two totally different "Load Master" trailer companies.
One is in Florida. The other in Ohio. ....if I remember correctly.

78CIG24 02-05-2016 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4400902)
FWIW, there are two totally different "Load Master" trailer companies.
One is in Florida. The other in Ohio. ....if I remember correctly.

Correct, Loadmaster in Ohio (http://www.loadmastertrailerco.com/) is typically custom welded steel/galv trailers vs Loadmaster in Florida (http://loadmastertrailer.com/) which is Custom Aluminum I-Beam Style Trailers.

Not sure if they are affiliated or not, always forget to ask when I stop by the Tampa Factory.

Cheers,

Dave

wfo1 02-05-2016 04:23 PM

You guys are right. It is Next rail that is the same as platinum. I had a brain failure. I had a loadmaster I beam a couple boats ago. I don't see that there is much if any difference in the I beam bolt together trailers. At least the ones that I have had. And I still stand by that there is no comparison to the welded aluminum Myco's or Manning's.

Flightplan 02-05-2016 07:39 PM

Call Owens & Sons in St Petersburg before you buy. They will build whatever you want at a very reasonable price. Great people to work with.

Welded Aluminum, no problem. Stainless EoH Brakes, no problem. Bow ladder, drive guards, LEDs, choice of wheels and tires, full custom build, no problem.

Half the cost of a Myco, and everyone I have talked to loves their Owens and Sons.

Full disclosure: they are building me one right now for a 28 Skater.

Revelocity 02-08-2016 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 4400710)
Who besides Myco makes a great aluminum trailer ?? I am looking at a Baja 40 Outlaw and I need a trailer. It has to be heavy duty as the boat is big and heavy. Looking at Nextrail, Ameritrail. Any other ones out there I am missing ??

Edit : Myco and Manning are great trailers, but too pricey for me. Would like to be in the 10-12K range.


Thanks

Very happy with my welded Ameratrail - trails great and has held up very nicely over the years.

ziemer 02-08-2016 10:58 AM

Ameritrail is 5 minutes from my house and I've seen plenty of nice trailers come out of their shop. They also have the ability to powdercoat on site.

Haven't seen a Strong Back in person, but I've seen plenty of pics, along with several happy customers.

Owen's and Sons also builds a nice trailer.

You can't go wrong with any of these three.

HabanaJoe 02-08-2016 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4400840)
PS- I HIGHLY recommend the Goodyear G614 RST Tires over Marathons or others. 14ply, 110psi, no sidewall crush/flex. Worth the extra $$ IMO

My 2 cents we have a small fleet of Load Rite trailers (generator trailers) they run 40k-50k miles a year. When the stock tires wore out we tried those exact tires which are way over the stock ratings. We found out the hard way that on the torsion tube axles you need the sidewall flex and bounce or you beat the suspension. Within 10k miles we destroyed a set of axles, meaning rubber failed and the tubes cracked on all 4 wheels, checked another trailer found 1 axles cracked both sides. Fixed everything, went back to the right softer sidewall tires and haven't another problem.

Will say we went to Load-Rite told them of the problems, of course "they're over loaded", so we got scale tickets and they shook their heads - in passing mentioned these great new tires we're using - a light went off!

Again my 2 cents - the tires can't be too overkill for the axles.

NASCAT 02-08-2016 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by HabanaJoe (Post 4401746)
My 2 cents we have a small fleet of Load Rite trailers (generator trailers) they run 40k-50k miles a year. When the stock tires wore out we tried those exact tires which are way over the stock ratings. We found out the hard way that on the torsion tube axles you need the sidewall flex and bounce or you beat the suspension. Within 10k miles we destroyed a set of axles, meaning rubber failed and the tubes cracked on all 4 wheels, checked another trailer found 1 axles cracked both sides. Fixed everything, went back to the right softer sidewall tires and haven't another problem.

Will say we went to Load-Rite told them of the problems, of course "they're over loaded", so we got scale tickets and they shook their heads - in passing mentioned these great new tires we're using - a light went off!

Again my 2 cents - the tires can't be too overkill for the axles.

Very Interesting & if you lived it you know better than the rest of us.

I find it hard to believe that the Axle Manufacturer specifies a tire or tire construction in order for their axles to be effective.
I plan to reach out to Dexter & follow up on this.

Thanks For Sharing!

bwd 02-08-2016 05:51 PM

You get what you pay for with everything these days. There are NO deals. if you pay 6k for a trailer, you may think that is a fair deal for a 30-35' boat. But the reality is you are paying for how much it weighs and the quality of the components. there is a big difference in a I beam trailer vs a welded C channel trailer. The I-beam twists and flexes a lot which is why they are bolted together. The strength in the trailer is in the boat. A welded trailer takes more material to stiffen and strengthen so by weight alone, its pricier, plus the labor. It may take a few days to weld up a trailer but on the flip side I waited 4 hrs at tow master once while they built , wired and stacked 7 trailers for me to pick up to bring home.
I personally, bought a new Peterson tandem for my Phantom. But I knew what I was getting for the most part. It was shiny and nice when new but the tires on mag wheels were cheap and cheesy > While it had the right 6k axles the wheels were to small ( ie load rating for the boat). It looked like it had plenty of drop beams in it when you look forward of the wheels but when I looked closer after a few thousand miles I realized the bunks only sat on 2 beams. 1 forward and 1 aft of the axles which put a bow and a bounce in the trailer under way. I've since straightened things out and am reasonably happy . A friend bought a new manning around the same time. I was jealous, but then again, I didn't have a an extra 5-6k for the Manning at the time. If I did, that's what I would have bought.

class6 02-08-2016 06:31 PM

I don't by the heavier load tires ruined the axles, I own a excavation/demo company, we have all kinds of trailers and axles, Lite or heavy load you don't want your tire flexing to save another part. tires are the most important lifeline of the trailer and your load.

NASCAT 02-08-2016 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4401842)
I don't by the heavier load tires ruined the axles, I own a excavation/demo company, we have all kinds of trailers and axles, Lite or heavy load you don't want your tire flexing to save another part. tires are the most important lifeline of the trailer and your load.

I think the coupler and safety chains run a close 2nd to the tires. :party-smiley-004:

DirtyMoney 02-08-2016 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 4400710)
Who besides Myco makes a great aluminum trailer ?? I am looking at a Baja 40 Outlaw and I need a trailer. It has to be heavy duty as the boat is big and heavy. Looking at Nextrail, Ameritrail. Any other ones out there I am missing ??

Edit : Myco and Manning are great trailers, but too pricey for me. Would like to be in the 10-12K range.


Thanks

Have you actually priced Manning? They should be at the top of your range.

offshoredrillin 02-09-2016 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4401750)
Very Interesting & if you lived it you know better than the rest of us.

I find it hard to believe that the Axle Manufacturer specifies a tire or tire construction in order for their axles to be effective.
I plan to reach out to Dexter & follow up on this.

Thanks For Sharing!

now I'm curious, I'm due for new tires this year after a 6 wheel lock up early last year. Funny thing is Dexter the axle company doesn't recommend torsion axles above 2 above manufactures specs for that. while backing in a tight spot have any others looked at the side wall stress on the front tires from the pivot? I like the ideas of these tires and I want them. Being as all torsion axles aren't the same, i wonder if the smaller ones for the smaller trailers had less uumph for the durability of the tires.

NASCAT 02-09-2016 09:36 AM

A part of me wants to believe that a harder stiffer tire breaks loose easier from the surface vs. one that flex's & distorts allowing the trailer to rotate easier in a tight turn situation. Distorting a tire like I've seen some do when in a tight turn can't be good for the tire construction (belts, seems etc)

Sydwayz 02-09-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4401990)
A part of me wants to believe that a harder stiffer tire breaks loose easier from the surface vs. one that flex's & distorts allowing the trailer to rotate easier in a tight turn situation. Distorting a tire like I've seen some do when in a tight turn can't be good for the tire construction (belts, seems etc)

I'm just going to install this on my truck & trailer; so I can pendulum-swing that ***** around corners:
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sun 304 02-10-2016 06:11 AM

Rolls Axle for salt water. No springs or torsion bars to rot out. 1-888-765-5752.

Flightplan 02-10-2016 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by NASCAT (Post 4401750)
Very Interesting & if you lived it you know better than the rest of us.

I find it hard to believe that the Axle Manufacturer specifies a tire or tire construction in order for their axles to be effective.
I plan to reach out to Dexter & follow up on this.

Thanks For Sharing!

Let us know what Dexter has to say about this, please. My new Owens trailer has Dexter axles.

NASCAT 02-10-2016 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Flightplan (Post 4402443)
Let us know what Dexter has to say about this, please. My new Owens trailer has Dexter axles.

While I can't quote verbatim b/c I didn't speak w/ them directly the sales and marketing director at Evo did and was told by Dexter that they'd never heard of any such thing. What I was told is that tire construction does not affect axle durability / wear, Dexter Axles that is.


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