Outerlimits / Eliminator SV29
03-18-2016 | 05:41 PM
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From: Clarkston, Michigan
Who needs tab indicators anyway? Don't you adjust tabs according to the feel of the boat?
03-18-2016 | 06:13 PM
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LOL, I blew past plenty of OL in the Miami Boat Show poker run. Ran with the guys from PBC at Key West all the way from Gilberts to Marathon. They had 1350's and I had 700 vipers. Got plenty of vid of them trying to pull past.......lol
OL are def better boats than Elim's but the Elim's are damn good with a history since 1969.
OL are def better boats than Elim's but the Elim's are damn good with a history since 1969.
"Trying to pull past", that's a funny comment! Lol!!!!!
I was in the blue 46' OL limited. On that run, if my memory serves right you were behind 3/4 if not more of the time and our GPS never went over 112mph that entire day. Your GPS must be broke. Pretty sure ours aren't...You might have been in front when you almost ran aground and threw a bunch of sand up in your roostertail. Then proceeded to cut us off going into a channel. We seen it coming and backed off and let you in front... I clearly remember you being behind and always having to watch what side of the boat you were on TRYING to pass us. Ever heard of holding your line when traveling in a group of boats(especially people you don't know)? it's a big ocean, no need to run up our asses or try and beat us to a channel marker. Off my rant, have a good day.
That 29' that PBC built is an awesome boat. Rode in it a couple times, once in the support our troops run on LOTO, handled the slop just fine for a 29' boat.
03-18-2016 | 06:18 PM
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LOL, I blew past plenty of OL in the Miami Boat Show poker run. Ran with the guys from PBC at Key West all the way from Gilberts to Marathon. They had 1350's and I had 700 vipers. Got plenty of vid of them trying to pull past.......lol
OL are def better boats than Elim's but the Elim's are damn good with a history since 1969.
OL are def better boats than Elim's but the Elim's are damn good with a history since 1969.
03-18-2016 | 06:46 PM
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From: Fort Worth, Texas
03-18-2016 | 06:48 PM
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Dang, I remember when I had my first post on OSO.
How is Peter bashing Eliminator? He simply stated the build process between the two are worlds apart. Eliminator builds a great, durable lake boat. I sure wouldn't want to be in an Eliminator on Lake Erie in 6'ers. They look great cruising the channel in Havasu tho.
How is Peter bashing Eliminator? He simply stated the build process between the two are worlds apart. Eliminator builds a great, durable lake boat. I sure wouldn't want to be in an Eliminator on Lake Erie in 6'ers. They look great cruising the channel in Havasu tho.
03-18-2016 | 08:33 PM
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Correct and the worst environmental restrictions in the US
Getting an AQMD permit to put in a spray booth is nightmarish. If you have one - its gold.
Out here we pay taxes on our illegal workers payrolls, same as the legal ones. Still not sure how that works but the state sure likes that money.
UD
Getting an AQMD permit to put in a spray booth is nightmarish. If you have one - its gold.
Out here we pay taxes on our illegal workers payrolls, same as the legal ones. Still not sure how that works but the state sure likes that money.
UD
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03-18-2016 | 10:13 PM
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From: Denver, Colorado 303 287 2800
Get your facts first
Well, when the boat was listed for sale the ad said "1-race (Key West 2014) and a total of less than 5-hours" when describing the NA engine then installed. Forehand's shop is on the Pamlico River in NC and it's been previously stated the boat was in Loto, neither of which is the "ocean".
The boat ran Key West in 2012,2013 & 2014. Three races each year equals nine races @ thirty minutes per equals 4.5 hrs total time at speed. It ran Gulf races (Englewood, Clearwater) and Michigan City once but hasn't run Cocoa Beach.It ran Loto.
So, even if you are generous when calculating its utilization and multiply by a factor of four or five,you're only at twenty-odd to thirty hrs.
When you run the numbers according to the ad "Over $400k invested" and an asking price of $275,000, assuming the total cost of ownership is a discount to the $400k, let's say $375,000, you get:
TCO $375,000 minus sale price $275,000 equals $100,000 divided by utilization of 20 hrs equals $5,000.00 per hr depreciation.Even at 25 hrs you're looking at $4,000.00 per hr...exclusive of direct operating expenses (fuel,oil etc).
The boat ran Key West in 2012,2013 & 2014. Three races each year equals nine races @ thirty minutes per equals 4.5 hrs total time at speed. It ran Gulf races (Englewood, Clearwater) and Michigan City once but hasn't run Cocoa Beach.It ran Loto.
So, even if you are generous when calculating its utilization and multiply by a factor of four or five,you're only at twenty-odd to thirty hrs.
When you run the numbers according to the ad "Over $400k invested" and an asking price of $275,000, assuming the total cost of ownership is a discount to the $400k, let's say $375,000, you get:
TCO $375,000 minus sale price $275,000 equals $100,000 divided by utilization of 20 hrs equals $5,000.00 per hr depreciation.Even at 25 hrs you're looking at $4,000.00 per hr...exclusive of direct operating expenses (fuel,oil etc).
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so".
Mark Twain
