Chief and Precision Team Up to Create Engine-Building Powerhouse
 

Chief Performance in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and Precision Power Offshore in Spring Lake, Mich., announced that they have come to terms on a long-term agreement to bring the two highly regarded companies together.

http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...ing-powerhouse

Congratulations to both!

1st: Congrats to both of them!

I remain cautiously optimistic on these announcements.

We've seen "marketing marriages" and "coopetition engagements" as well as 'mergers' and the like.
But why do they always seem to fall apart in this industry?

Sonic/Frisini/Spectre/Adrenaline
Pier57/Shogren
& dozens of other large boat dealerships that "came together"
(& another thread on 2 builders that was closed recently and shall remain nameless)

I truly do wish them the best of the best in their future aligned endeavors!!

Super excited to have both my guys under one roof
Best of luck guys
Can't wait for my engines to go boating
NK

what is the upside for tommy?

Congratulations guys!!!! Proud to call them both friends of mine , should make for a incredible duo. Good luck boys, looking forward watching they can do together.

Congrats guys. Tommy has always been a great guys and wish him the best

Mark

I'm thinking he doesn't have to run everyday employees around now :) That could be worth the move :)

Congrats!!!

Too many unknowns, article really doesn't say much (no criticism). Guess we wait and see.

Good luck to all involved.

Gets to tap keyboards instead of turning wrenches! :D

I would also strongly suspect the caliber of mechanics might be higher in Michigan than South Florida and the overhead costs (shop/insurance/etc) would probably be lower up north.

Congrats to both!!!! Ben has always done great work for me!!!!

I've personally known Tommy for 35 years. He is very thorough and analytical in his thinking and is a success as a result.

I am certain that he has made this decision based on what is best for his business and his family. I trust Tommy and his judgement without reservation because of what I know about his character, knowledge and experience.

John

Congratulations Ben and Tommy

Congrats to all partys

well I have heard great things about Tommy and wish he was still involved! I own the 47 GTX Outerlimits XXX and i have the 1500/1250 Chief 632 CI quad Whipple motors recently gone through. First u buy a program for say $20,000.00 then you pay for tuning. Refresh the motors and change the cam slightly based on their recommendation and then spend $5000 for Ben to come to town for a couple days and to justify it he claims the tune is bad and he could of spent a week tuning the motors. At $2000 day i bet he could. but if the tune is junk WTF was the $20k for and then claims well i don't know what you did to the motor so i have to start over ( we changed the cam to what u suggested) thats all NOTHING else other than replacing worn parts fuel pumps, water pumps, servicing injectors ect. We also find out one motor is internally balanced the other one externally (thats a 3k bill to correct) now my computer has a race fuel tune and a pump gas tune but because he does not talk to or respond to the customer when on the dyno he fails to even look at it. Now Texas outlaw challenge was coming up in a few weeks i was told he would be here to do some in the water tuning that was included in my bill. I wanted to raise the rev limiter and run race fuel for the shootout not only did he not show up he didn't even respond to me or the shop Gulf Coast complete Marine until AFTER the shootout was over! SO here we are getting ready for LOTO and the same **** the ******* doesn't respond to countless messages nor has he ever looked at the race fuel tune or given me a way to raise the rev limiter. The answer you question how will it work........ its a disaster and i would not recommend anyone buy anything from them! This is in no way a knock on Tommy as i heard nothing but great things about him but he sold his company and reputation to a complete *******!

So, what happened to the days of buying a set of engines, put them in the boat, go enjoy boating until they need to be rebuilt?

LOL...still exist but you have to run 496HOs, never missed a day running them.

I was recently at another Michigan based engine builder. Needless to say, they had a number of non running new "chief" engines in for repair.

Another friend of mine had his Merc 525's freshened up. They burned twice as much oil after the refresh. And the bill was twice as much as the quote.

I can comment on our experience with Ben. He's done all the maintenance/repair our our 43 Checkmate and prior to this boat, several rebuilds of our 1800 hp twin turbo engine. The work has always been done correctly and billed fairly. No one else will ever service our stuff.

truth!

Cass:
Seriously, EVERY topic like this one ends up with stories like the above.

You should have heard the insider's view on what happened between Pier57 and Shogren "coming together".
Unfortunately, there are only 3 relevant parties on that topic; two have moved on to other industries, and one has passed.

Edit

Yea i remember when those guys imploded Pier 57 had bullish in Destin every year and the largest display in key west then boom! I just don't know how this guy Ben expects to be in business long treating his customers this way. I have pretty well been in business for myself since i was 23 years old and damn sure would not have made it ignoring and overcharging my customers!

Hows that working out for you.
Hint : Still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same story again and again Shocked nobody has FIXED Ben!

what kind of ECU do you have

Tommy was outstanding with his stuff hope he re surfaces with "Super Chief " :)

Im not sure but Chief has the program locked you cant do anything other than see diagnostics. Cant make ANY adjustments as i understand it

if you can find out what ECU it is or post a pic of it, maybe some smarty EFI guy can help you get in. I can do a few, but not all. And I'm not a smarty EFI guy but may be able to point you to one

pectel made by cosworth

Send you a PM. Cosworth electronics is near me

Which model ? There are many.
Cosworth.com | Products | Racing Electronics | All Products | Control Systems | Engine Control Units

pectel sq6m
01e-500720
s/n 929/ss2/14
tested srt jan 16

Cass, check with Mark Boos while you are at loto, if they wont stand behind it or get it right he would be the go to guy. Stand up guy and super knowledgeable on all those systems

I believe I know a local NY tuner that Zul uses that has programmed Pectals. I'm sure he would travel. If your interested I'll send you his info.

If you have that info , can u send it to me as I have a friend who has the pectels and would like to talk to someone about them .We are on LI . Thanks

What is the company going to be called?

pm sent. He's on Long Island as well.

I may be wrong...usually am, but I thought that each Cosworth/Pectal ECU come's with it's own license to program...therefore the original builder/programmer . I'd look into this !

whats so special about this computer system,,I'd be scrapping it(actually sell it) and get into a big stuff3 w/ all the bells and whistles.A big plus,,alot of people can tune them.