Baja 36 Outlaw or Baja 33 Outlaw??
 

As the title states I'm looking for input on the 36 Outlaw VS the 33 Outlaw. I've been approved on both boats just not sure which one to pull the trigger on. The 36 is a 2002 with built 540 EFI's, Imco extension boxes, XR drives, shore power, vaccu flush, AC, fridge, microwave, sitting on a 2008 myco trailer. The 33 is a 1998 with HP 500's carb motors. Fresh valves and springs, Imco extension boxes, XR drives, with portta pottie and fridge, Sitting on a 2002 Magnum trailer. There's a $15,500 between the two in purchase price. Both claim each boat with run low 80's which is were I'd like to be for top speed. Just wondering if the 36 is worth the extra $15,500 and having EFI over carb motors? I'll be running in the ocean as a weekend warrior and would like to do overnight's from time to time. It won't be an every weekend thing. Any input on pushing me to one or the other would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance 👍🏻

Whats the hours on both, who built the 540's ?...............way more comfort features in the 36 and should ride better in the big water

33 Outlaw is a no brainer for me, faster, one of the most/more efficient hulls baja built, slightly easier to tow, responds better to horsepower modifications, the 500's are a great base regardless of being carbed, 33 has better resale, less weight for the Bravos to push (that 36 is heavy!)

The 36 is bigger but not that much. The 36 will have a better ride but at speed the 33 is pretty hard to beat. In the end, they arent THAT different. I run my 342 in the ocean and after coming from a lake and going to the ocean I cant see the 36 being reliable with 540's and bravos in the ocean. On and off the throttles in the ocean and the 36 will eat bravos. The 33 with 500's and XR's will be pretty reliable.

The 36 has 120hrs on motors and drives. Not sure of the hours on the hull. Precision Marine built the 540's. I'm not familiar with the shop. The 33 has 292 original hours and 60hrs on the valves and springs.

Do you have dyno sheet for the 540's, how much power did they make, good friend ran 700hp through XR's for three years and never broke one, all in how you drive.

Condition is everything and we don't know that, 15k is asking, bigger boat, four years newer, Myco is top line, I had a 33 and loved it started out with 502's then 540's

Don't have dyno sheets but I think he has them. The motors are 600hp each. Both boats are in pristine condition. No the $15k is what the difference is in price between the 36 and 33. Just wondering if it's worth spending the extra $15k on the 36.

I had a 36 and my buddy still has his 33.
The 36 is way bigger and sits higher.
There's more headroom down below with better creature comforts for overnights. It definitely will be better in the ocean.

mtb, if this is the 36 you are looking at....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...irth-baja.html

read up. I noticed quite a few similarities in your description to this boat. imo, without knowing anything about the 33 you are looking at...i'd vote for the 36. IF the 36 you are looking at is the one this thread is about.

I own a 33 and have driven a few others, also have driven a few 36's, the 33 is a more nimble boat, as far as the ride goes, I don't think there's really that much difference... I doubt either of those will consistently run 80 though.o

We love our 33, that being said, if you can swing the 15k, I would say its worth it with Precision motors! A+++ builder!! Very well known for high hp, and efi tuning. I have a 98 33 and what color would be my first question. Th 02 36 probably shows newer just by the colors. Bravos with 600+ is on the high side of capability of the XRs and depending on where you will be riding, you will be elbow deep in drive rebuilding, etc. The a/c would be nice!!
I have heard the 36ol are heavy. I was looking at a 36, but couldnt manage the storage space.

The guy I was talking to had a 36 and a 33. He said the 36 plows through waves vs the 33 riding more on top. I have been in our 33 in the GOM in 3-5s with 9 people in cockpit and the kids were not scarred a bit. that says a lot in my book.

Is that Precision Marine in Louisiana?

If its Docks old boat, thats a fine Baja specimen... He poured a chitload of money into it and it was done right. That was a badass boat when the blowers were on it! He spent some money to get her over 90. I have all his old props. :)

This 36 I recall has so many extras, the Doc Holiday boat must have 100k in extras. This boat has Mc Load seats which are the best seats in the industry I can not imagine what these must cost today. The Imco extensions are huge money. The Myco trailer alone cost 18K. This is a no brainer. Go see it and see how it is maintained. I am usually sold when I check out the persons garage and you will get a feel how it is maintained, Good luck

YES and keep in mind the 36 is 4 years newer.
Precision Marine is top notch.

Yes, the 36 I'm talking about is the Doc Holiday boat.

What happened to doc?

He was a wealth of Baja info on the boards for a long time. his 36 is bad azz.

I don't think you can go wrong with a 33 or 36. 33 is on my short list once I figure out what I really want. ;)

^^ This. I can't tell you much about either boat, but 1998 sounds REAL OLD.

That boat is badazz, If you can comfortably swing the extra 15k that boat is a lock IMO.

I'm curious and I'm going to have to ask if these motors have been redone since they were supercharged. Because right now it's being sold is naturally aspirated. Seller never mentioned that it was supercharged.

If Mark in Kenner, LA ( Precision Marine ) built them, Id call and ask him, if built as blower motors they will be lower compression then if they were built as NA

Found this in the link that was posted.



Mark Boos – Precision Marine - http://www.pmefi.com/


I just refer to Mark as the legend!

He is a cool guy that loves what he does and does it GREAT. I could not have asked for anyone better to build my engines. He is extremely nice to work with, runs a very professional shop and does incredable work.

MEFI 4B Computer
Dart block
540 cubic inch
Crowler crank
Manley rods
J & E Blower pistons
Baker oil pan
Cometic head gaskets
AFR 345CC coated heads
Inconel valves
Crane GOLD roller rockers
Mark Boos special gring cam
Whipple Stage II polished superchargers
All new Mercury Marine assessories
Hardin Marin oil coolers

715 HP with 3-1/2 PSI Boost at 5500 RPM (4-3/4 blower pulley)
824 HP with 6-1/2 PSI Boost at 5900 RPM (4-3/8 blower pulley
954 HP with 11 PSI Boost at 5900 RPM

We have them set up at 824 HP.

I know the 98 years wise is older but only has 292 original hours. And has some nice add ons

In general both are GREAT boats and we absolutely LOVED our 33 outlaw poker run edition. If you don't end up buying one of those two check out the newer 35 outlaw another great boat.

There is $15,000 difference in just one engine! It's twin comes free.

What are you talking about?

The 540's in the 36 have so much more value that for the 15,000 in price you are paying for one and getting the other 540 for free .........at least that's what I was thinking

yep

Well made the decision to go with the 33. The seller came down another $2k and there's a significant difference in monthly payments. Hopefully it was the right choice.

Midwest272 and Papasmurf know exactly what I am talking about.

You just passed on one of the most re done / over done 36s ever.

Best of Luck- the payments are the Cheapest part of Go Fast lol ;)

Yep, someone should jump on that 36'

$ 2k buys a set of XR upper gears ;)

Well then I guess all you guys should go buy that 36 if it's the best boat out there. Has to be a reason why it's been for sale since spring. Came on here to ask info from ppl who have experience with both boats not to get ridiculed for passing on a boat that might be a little more than what I need. Thanks to the ppl who actually contributed info to what the post was actuality on here for!

If this is directed toward me I was not ridiculing you. I hope you are happy with your decision. You are the only one you have to please. I did however try and give you some info as to why there is such a price difference between the two boats. I don't have a dog in this fight.

PS: I have a bit of experience with a 36 Outlaw. Had one since 1999 when we ordered it!

I would have went with the 33 over the 36 too, my comment was based on the fact that it has 500's and XR's...when they ( XR upper gears) wear out or break, put X gears back in it

Gettinbye no that wasn't directed towards you directly. I appreciate your input and thank you!

You are very welcome!

Thank you Jaayteee 👍

Where do you boat out of mtb ? congrats on the 33, make sure its dry

The boat is stored in Somerset,KY. It's getting surveyed next weekend. So if there's any issues the surveyor will let me know.

I said that in the first post. 500's in a 33 are a nice package. Good speed, good reliability, able to be modified if you want and the horsepower is strong enough to go fast and run it hard without dropping gears out of your drives once a season. Its kinda that "just right" scenario.