Future Safety Suggestion - Shorten the Shootout Courses
10-17-2016, 06:18 PM
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I agree with Team Saris. Lots of guys on this Web Forum have the $ and the time to go buy the fastest thing out there, or campaign an entire season in a GPS capped class, yet they don't join an Organized, Sanctioned Race Association and RACE THEIR BOAT OFF SHORE!
Why is that?
Why is that?
10-17-2016, 06:27 PM
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I agree with Team Saris. Lots of guys on this Web Forum have the $ and the time to go buy the fastest thing out there, or campaign an entire season in a GPS capped class, yet they don't join an Organized, Sanctioned Race Association and RACE THEIR BOAT OFF SHORE!
Why is that?
Why is that?
10-17-2016, 06:32 PM
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I agree with the last couple of posts, shootout course length is irrelevant. These cats are made to trap air and fly, and at speeds approaching and in some cases exceeding 200mph, all of the safety systems in the world are not going to prevent these boats from going airborne. They already do that at just about any speed given the right conditions. The safest solution I see, although a large amount of risk would still be involved, is a return to offshore racing roots, where 40'+ deep vees battled head to head in true offshore conditions, like they used to do in offshore racings heyday. Throw in some helo coverage and I think it could be a success in providing some needed exposure to the sport.
10-17-2016, 07:30 PM
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How will they manage that in a poker run? They cant run unless they are a canopied boat? Then, if its an old race boat it would require serious money for canopy reinforcement that still may not protect a driver. (not mocking just implying this wont be an easy task)
Lots of stuff necessary still for the driver like Hans Device and air.
This chit gets out of control quick. Before you know it you are in a tank not a boat.
Lots of stuff necessary still for the driver like Hans Device and air.
This chit gets out of control quick. Before you know it you are in a tank not a boat.
10-17-2016, 07:45 PM
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How will they manage that in a poker run? They cant run unless they are a canopied boat? Then, if its an old race boat it would require serious money for canopy reinforcement that still may not protect a driver. (not mocking just implying this wont be an easy task)
Lots of stuff necessary still for the driver like Hans Device and air.
This chit gets out of control quick. Before you know it you are in a tank not a boat.
Lots of stuff necessary still for the driver like Hans Device and air.
This chit gets out of control quick. Before you know it you are in a tank not a boat.
10-17-2016, 07:57 PM
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I know dude, but its apparent that slowing down isnt an option. Which is understandable from both sides... Powerboats inherently attract the adrenaline crowed. We lost too many people this year (let alone other years) Good people keep dying. Keeping the sport fun and still keeping it safe is going to take a collective effort of brains and balls.
10-17-2016, 08:03 PM
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Boats can blow over at much lower speeds early in the course. I think it's time for some different safety considerations. Guys should be harnessed into carbon pods that absorb the impacts or something. Other motorsports require neck restrains and much more safety gear than sitting on some vinyl pads with a helmet on.
I have never gone these speeds in anything except an airplane! I think as a participant of these races/events you need to accept the risk yourself and live your life as you see fit. I don't see the need to run 150+ in a boat (or car but I have in the past), I don't skydive (I have in the past) but I certainly don't want to stop others if they want to. I'm not pressing my will onto others so they can be safer as it is their choice to run their boat the way they want.
On the safety concern, lets say they are more protected but end up paralyzed from the neck down as a result of the accident. Is that better than being dead for these guys? I had an uncle that had a pretty cool life. Raced Porsches, rode Harleys for years (not a biker type guy but a guy that owned a chain of drycleaners!), he rode bikes from New England to Sturgis then on to Southern California. He rode Harleys on the autobahn in Germany! Guy fell off a porch (railing was dry rotted) while taking out the garbage, fell about 15 ft. Broke his neck in 3 places, he stayed alive for about 12 hours (with machines). It was worse than the Christopher Reeve injury, his living will stated......"Disconnect" all artificial life support methods in the event of a vegetative state/paralysis etc. For him, living like Christopher Reeve wasn't living and he died at age 56. The plug got pulled and he lived about 3 minutes.
10-17-2016, 08:03 PM
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I know dude, but its apparent that slowing down isnt an option. Which is understandable from both sides... Powerboats inherently attract the adrenaline crowed. We lost too many people this year (let alone other years) Good people keep dying. Keeping the sport fun and still keeping it safe is going to take a collective effort of brains and balls.
10-17-2016, 08:07 PM
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I don't understand that slowing down isn't an option. It's an option on the race course where all the safety equipment is there and available. Why isnt it an option at a poker run? That's silly. We all say "ive got the balls ill never lift!" but you know where that gets you at a race? The end of a tow rope with broken stuff. Ill gladly lift before I crash. Certainly don't feel like less of a man for it. SpeedontheWater's newest article does a fantastic job highlighting some big shootout players having the same realization. Hopefully the trend continues.
