Octane Booster?
12-19-2016 | 05:49 PM
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I personally, have never melted or damaged an engine down , from gas. I fill the boat up where ever its convenient, as around here, alot of stations don't have room for a truck and 38ft boat to pull into. I've seen more guys melt down engines , and their engine builder always comes up with the same story "you sir, got some bad gas" .
The average person probably burns 1000 gallons a year per car/truck in their household. How often are dealerships replacing and rebuilding engines due to melted pistons and other carnage from all this "bad gas" everyone is getting?
Not saying its impossible to get bad gas, but I bet 1 out of 10 engine failures blamed on bad gas, was actually from bad gas, and not something else. Especially, when a particular builder, seems to have half a dozen customers engines that melted down in the past couple years, and they all heard the same thing "you sir, got bad gas".
Just last week, a co worker's F150 died at work, and wouldnt restart. Of course,, he said "I think I got a bad tank of gas, it was running fine, until I gassed up this morning" . I told him I doubt it, something else probably is the issue. Had truck towed to shop. What the issue was? Fuel pump relay.
The average person probably burns 1000 gallons a year per car/truck in their household. How often are dealerships replacing and rebuilding engines due to melted pistons and other carnage from all this "bad gas" everyone is getting?
Not saying its impossible to get bad gas, but I bet 1 out of 10 engine failures blamed on bad gas, was actually from bad gas, and not something else. Especially, when a particular builder, seems to have half a dozen customers engines that melted down in the past couple years, and they all heard the same thing "you sir, got bad gas".
Just last week, a co worker's F150 died at work, and wouldnt restart. Of course,, he said "I think I got a bad tank of gas, it was running fine, until I gassed up this morning" . I told him I doubt it, something else probably is the issue. Had truck towed to shop. What the issue was? Fuel pump relay.
12-19-2016 | 06:05 PM
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Also If a guy takes an engine and adds a power adder, with a stock cam (witch in itself is ok, until the boost gets up to a point the Cam grind just won't cool the piston top) and all of a sudden it's the fuel, when in reality the Exhaust valve needed to be opened a few degrees sooner to cool the piston. Also I have personally seen bad fuel get blamed for a bad injector, or loss of correct fuel pressure.Just a few examples
12-19-2016 | 06:23 PM
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I surely don't know what is in there, people claim it works, (and I have no reason to doubt it, the folks that I know that use have been around marine engines for a lone time) But it smells like it came from a still in the back hills of Kentucky!
12-19-2016 | 07:04 PM
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I have read that it turns plugs orange which would indicate Methylcyclopentadienyl Manganese Tricarbonyl . (MMT) Other companies use it and have had suspension problems, which could be why Boostane advertises a superior carrier......
12-19-2016 | 08:34 PM
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one must be very carefull when going these routes.. It can be done safely with education and expenditure.
You are not going to go to Autozone, pick up 4 cans of 104 octane boost and turn 87 octane into 93 much less race gas.
You can get boostane or similar and achieve it.
Personally, I believe in building a motor for available fuel. Sooner or later you are going to find yourself low on gas sitting at a fuel dock at the mercy of what they have.
Of course this reuires an understanding of why your motor needs the octane it does, Compression? Timing? Boost?? etc... You can also "overoctane" which can actually result in decreased performance.
You are also going to need to accurately mix it at the gas dock, that will involve storing a quantity somewhere on the boat, measuring it and and pouring it into the tank at a busy gas dock on Saturday afternoon.
Im not trying to discourage you, only make you aware of what you are really asking. Its not all that difficult, its just not quite as easy as dumping a bottle of STP fuel treatment into the tank of the griswald family truckster every other fillup
You are not going to go to Autozone, pick up 4 cans of 104 octane boost and turn 87 octane into 93 much less race gas.
You can get boostane or similar and achieve it.
Personally, I believe in building a motor for available fuel. Sooner or later you are going to find yourself low on gas sitting at a fuel dock at the mercy of what they have.
Of course this reuires an understanding of why your motor needs the octane it does, Compression? Timing? Boost?? etc... You can also "overoctane" which can actually result in decreased performance.
You are also going to need to accurately mix it at the gas dock, that will involve storing a quantity somewhere on the boat, measuring it and and pouring it into the tank at a busy gas dock on Saturday afternoon.
Im not trying to discourage you, only make you aware of what you are really asking. Its not all that difficult, its just not quite as easy as dumping a bottle of STP fuel treatment into the tank of the griswald family truckster every other fillup
Could you elaborate on the "overoctane" comment. If you are running premium fuel and don't necessarily need it, how does this decrease performance? Thanks.
12-19-2016 | 08:40 PM
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the higher the octane the slower the burn not a good idea to run a lot more octane then the engine needs.. Plus it will soot the transom! LOL
