Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4557034)

I have yet to see any video of Loto that makes me thinknits worse then Great Lakes, I didn't know anyone in the Great Lakes that will say loto is worse, hmmm we have islands and channels all over and a huge bay, JUST LIKE LOTO... now add 30-40 mph winds ... and a depth average of 30-40 ft ... trust me we get worse that's been debated more then cig/fountain... not even worth the arguement... I just thought it was funny that dude considers 2-3's "rough" and that is like 1-2 weekends a season.

As for experience... how many loto guys been to Erie? Doubt too many so same opinion goes how can they judge?

Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4557034)

I have yet to see any video of Loto that makes me thinknits worse then Great Lakes, I didn't know anyone in the Great Lakes that will say loto is worse, hmmm we have islands and channels all over and a huge bay, JUST LIKE LOTO... now add 30-40 mph winds ... and a depth average of 30-40 ft ... trust me we get worse that's been debated more then cig/fountain... not even worth the arguement... I just thought it was funny that dude considers 2-3's "rough" and that is like 1-2 weekends a season.

As for experience... how many loto guys been to Erie? Doubt too many so same opinion goes how can they judge?

Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4556979)

I contribute where I feel I need to, you guys can feel free to not look or sorry about what I do... not sure eh you care? So....

Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4556799)

Ok, check this out.....

Standard man card rules would have Phil step up and say "Tim, you win, I did not have my sh!t together and am unable to compete, therefor you win by default' as he graciously admits defeat.

And by those same standard man card rules, Tim would say "While I accept your concession, I want to beat you head to head in true competition" Thereby offering a rematch.


So what I, the great instigator of jackassery am proposing is as follows....

Fall usually see rough water and is techically "after" the season so to speak to eliminate potential schedueling conflicts.

October 28th is Halloween at the bay (PIB). The run from the Venetian marina to PIB is roughly 20 miles. End of October can pretty much guarantee snotty conditions. Dockage at the Bay should not be an issue. The party is usually pretty good. Now for the pound fest reward.. The winner walks the loser (dressed as a dog) around all night on a leash with the loser fetching and buying the winners drinks and pays his dock fee for Saturday night. We will arrange for official starting, finishing and timekeeping for the event.and I will buy both participants their first round of beverages Saturday night. Can I get 3 volunteers for course workers?

If you knuckleheads are serious, and are willing to commit and make this happen, weather permitting I can possibly arrange for a helicopter to film the run. (helicopter pilot has done several opa races and has no problem getting down on the deck for some good pictures)

Tim, are you in?

Phil, Are you in?

Originally Posted by cigrocket (Post 4557065)

Wow 54 pages and we aren't choosing a CAM, Oil or saying the word Apache. What is OSO coming to?

Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4557070)

To be fair Tim did say Apache!

Lol