For you cig fans:cool:

Who's boat Warpaint?

on stragered engined boats, how do you decide:
which engine will be in front ?

I have seen and did them both ways....really it comes down to a matter of asthetics. Although, I have never ever did any testing on identical boats with the stagger opposite of each other. So I couldn't give you any info if there is any actual performance gain of one over the other.

Sean

uhhh Fred...that's a Sutphen.....;) :D :D :D

too Old: that boat looks sharp..

Nice Boat Fred ! :)

This boat was at the Thunder on the Bay Poker Run ( I took the picture). I have to look to see if I have a shot of the boat!;)

Thanks bro

At first glance you almost think that somebody anodized the exhaust blue until you see the reflection from the engine compartment lighting. ;) It looks like a nice piece though.

Too Old did you get my return email. Nice project you have in the photo BTW. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Sean

Enough said! :D:D:D

GLH
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:evilb:

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Well if money was not an issue, I would love to restore an old Apache with good power, I would have to contract most of the work out, I have no talent in this area.

But in reality, if I was to up grade to one or the other now it would be a Cig TIGER all the way, RIDE, not speed.

If I could upgrade to my choice, 38ZR.

Votes sure have turned around, but lets be real, how many could make the leap, so you could have Jet Ski owners voting!

Bryan Tuvell
DONZI 33 ZX

Re: cigarette or apache?
 

Apache baby.

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Sold both new from Everglades Marina from 1987 to 1993.
The Apache customer didn't have to be sold on anything. Before he walked in he knew he was going to spend some serious money for exactly what he wanted. Back then Apache Powerboats was in Hollywood and could build 12 41's and 6 47's per year.
These ordered boats were very individualized which hurt their resale somewhat. An Apache guy wanted it HIS way.

The Cigarette guy didn't want to wait for the special order and many times was a repeat customer for a Cigarette. Many first time buyers wanted a Cigarette because they constantly had heard the comparisons to a Cigarette and felt that it must be the best. Also back then a Cigarette was less expensive than the Apache.

The fact that the name "Cigarette" has become the generic term for a high performance boat doesn't hurt the resale either.

(Just some facts from ancient history).

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Who can tell me what year Apache last won a championship?[/QUOTE]


It was the probably the last time there was a REAL offshore powerboat race

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I remember when the Miami race left Government Cut and checkpoint one was near the concrete ship in South Bimini! 42 miles of open ocean crossing the Gulfstream. You really needed a navigator in those days.
Checkpoint 3 was in West Palm Beach! Then we would turn South back to Miami, turn-around and go back to WPB and then back to Miami.
178 miles crossing the Gulfstream twice. Those were the days. GPS hadn't yet been invented.
My back hurts just remembering. "FlapJack" was a 1979 38' Bertram in Kevlar that Howard Quam and I pushed to the max whenever we could.

I love the smell of Av-gas in the morning...

Re: cigarette or apache?
 

i'll pick with my eyes close

Re: cigarette or apache?
 

Dam guys.

I only make 30 grand a year.

Can we have a poll with an 85 Scarab vs. a 86 Stinger? :D

TTT. Time to update this thread. :D

got it!let's talk!

If buying an older boat I would say Apache but if brand new A Cig

New or used....Apache!

Apache!!

The one still in business.... :drink:


http://www.limestonedev.com/tiger/000Cig1.jpg


I love that picture! :D

Buy the Best.............................SKATER !!!!

If I boated on a pond I would!

I just got some t-shirts and hats from mark the other day. Call up the # and commission a 50' for yourself. I'm quite sure he's still in business and would be more than happy to build you one.