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Old 12-07-2017, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Phenomenon
From where it all started in Al's head in 1997 to the boat we ended up with in 2008, the story of the Phenomenon is a long one. I could go on and on with stories about the learning process of this boat, but I won't, I will give you a condensed version. The boat started as a 2 engine 65ft boat in 1997 & Al had his yacht designer make a model of it and had him pull it beside a flat boat to see what would happen to it at high speeds, Al liked the results enough to move forward. We built a model of the boat and took it to Georgia Tech to be tested in their wind tunnel. In the wind tunnel it would blow over at 180mph and after more testing it was determined that 56ft was the biggest we could go and still do what Al wanted to do with the boat. Al wanted to break the propeller speed record of 225mph and go back and break the Miami to New York record. As many times as the engineers told Al that those 2 goals needed 2 different boats he was adamant to have one boat that could do both goals. So the boat was redesigned to 56ft and the wind tunnel model was modified and we went back into the wind tunnel and the change was a success. Now who was going to build this? We reached out to all the builders- Goetz, Mystic, Wright, MTI, Skater, but the one stipulation that Al had was that the builder come here and the boat be built in his hometown of New Orleans. So we ended up bringing in a builder from New Zealand who had worked on the Callan boat and he put together a crew and started building it at Al's old spice plant in New Orleans . As the hull was in the mold being built Al called a meeting and told us that he no longer wanted it to be a 2 engine turbine boat, he wanted it to have 4 engines. But every test,data and design we had was based off of 2 engines so engineers started scrambling to see if 4 engines would even fit. Once the engineers knew they would fit they told Al that with the 4 engines (12,000hp) the boat would be capable of well over 300mph so Al said "Well then why not go for the water speed record too? And I want to be able to survive an impact at that speed also". So now we had to figure out how to make the hull strong enough to withstand an impact and have him survive at 300+ mph. That was it, everything got thicker, longer, wider and of course heavier. The engineers still assuring us that the extra added weight didn't matter because we had so much horsepower. Everything was moving forward, but in Novemebr 2007 Al found out he had a rare aggressive skin cancer, the news was devastating to us all, and the outcome didn't look good. So we just started working around the clock to try to get the boat together so he could get one ride in it, but 5 months later he passed away.
At that time the boat was far from ready and the builder was no longer motivated to finish the project. But Al expressed 2 wishes to his family before his death- for the boat to be finished so it could break the propeller record and for his family to find a cure for the cancer that he had. The family agreed to both wishes and so we moved on and finished the boat. We were never prepared for the obstacles (and trust me, it was a lot) that were about to unfold over the next few years of testing (over 80hrs running) because of the main problem, the weight. With all of Al's changes and add- ons we were now 35,000lbs (11,000lbs over our projected weight). Yes, a lot of money was thrown into trying to overcome our problem because we all had an emotional attachment to the goal. If Al had not passed away I know the outcome would have been different, but we did the best we could with the cards we were dealt and at our top speed of 194mph I don't think that is too bad for a fat cat.

-Scott
Thank you so much for sharing the history of this epic project. Knowing the boat as you do, what path would you envision (or suggest) a perspective buyer take with this boat to get it back on the water? How many engines, and what kind and realistic speeds? Or is the boat so overbuilt and heavy and cost prohibitive that the hull is now nothing more than a beautiful showpiece ornament for someone to display?
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:35 AM
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I think that the boat would be a great poker run boat. The weight isn't so much in hull as it's in the equipment and cockpit. The cockpit was overbuilt and it is its own pod originally designed to breakaway from the boat in a crash. But once the 4 turbines went into the picture the engineers decided that the pod needed to stay with the boat because they wanted the boat to take the impact. Just the shell of the pod is 1000 lbs. The tunnel would need to be filled in, remove the pod and add a cockpit to your liking and a wrap around windshield. You could probably seat over 10 people in cockpit area. The boat also has 6 gas tanks that were going to be for the Miami to New York run, I would remove the front 2 tanks and the structure that held them in. Depending on preference you could go back with 2 turbines or 2 diesels.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenomenon
I think that the boat would be a great poker run boat. The weight isn't so much in hull as it's in the equipment and cockpit. The cockpit was overbuilt and it is its own pod originally designed to breakaway from the boat in a crash. But once the 4 turbines went into the picture the engineers decided that the pod needed to stay with the boat because they wanted the boat to take the impact. Just the shell of the pod is 1000 lbs. The tunnel would need to be filled in, remove the pod and add a cockpit to your liking and a wrap around windshield. You could probably seat over 10 people in cockpit area. The boat also has 6 gas tanks that were going to be for the Miami to New York run, I would remove the front 2 tanks and the structure that held them in. Depending on preference you could go back with 2 turbines or 2 diesels.
Awesome. Would be a wave crusher on PR's for sure. Thanks for the info and good luck with the sale.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:50 PM
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Anyone else see some similarity in Al's vision and goals and the project 'Big Silver Cat' (Tyson) is working on?
Very different boats, one was more for speed, the other is a balance of speed and endurance but the idea of pushing boundaries and making new ideas work is common to both.

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Old 12-08-2017, 07:27 PM
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Chromed it somewhere along the line for bling
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Old 12-09-2017, 11:27 AM
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Is there any video of the boat running?
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:08 AM
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The old eBay price was 125k wasn't it?
How does 85k sound?

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At that price maybe they should just donate it and take the tax right off. What a cool attraction at a park or something. Let the kids climb around in it. The odds of it ever being runnable in the water seem daunting to say the least. What a shame.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:28 AM
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I'm sure they had more than $85,000 in the trailer alone. It would be a cool 3D amusement type ride with hydraulics to simulate wave conditions like the roller coaster rides.
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I was just in Slidell in March and saw the boat sitting outside at a shop, I have to say it was definitely sad to see Al's dream or whatever you'd like to call it sitting out there. We knew Al and he for sure loved his boats. It's just sad that nothing came to fruition.
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