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Mando 08-02-2022 02:11 PM

300r
 
i have a 2022 trip 400. curious what kind of top end do get with the 300rs

SilverTT 08-02-2022 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Mando (Post 4840301)
i have a 2022 trip 400. curious what kind of top end do get with the 300rs

Our 340 with trip 300Rs has seen 77.4mph so far. Love the power package. Incredible mid range torque - fully pushes you back in seats between 30 and 60mph. Great sound during acceleration and cruise and nearly silent at idle unless you flip the sport exhaust toggle when you get a really nice V8 rumble.

Mando 08-02-2022 05:02 PM

300r
 
nice performance on the 300r. i ordered with 400s. then nortech said can't get them. said 300r. instead. then in rigging 400s came in. just got the boat beginning of april. 9 months late. lol. 400 are great also. not the power the 300r have. factory top end was 84.4. no seats 4 people limited fuel. i can get 81 had 6 people and little over half fuel plus all the junk. lol.

kornegle 08-02-2022 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by SilverTT (Post 4840310)
Our 340 with trip 300Rs has seen 77.4mph so far. Love the power package. Incredible mid range torque - fully pushes you back in seats between 30 and 60mph. Great sound during acceleration and cruise and nearly silent at idle unless you flip the sport exhaust toggle when you get a really nice V8 rumble.

what year are your 300R's? I have one that I purchased late in 2019 and the exhaust is not switchable on mine, and the manual never mentioned it was.

Mando 08-03-2022 07:07 AM

insurance
 
someone mentioned insurance. my boat is in cape coral. insurance was $6800 per year. when i had a similar nortech on chesepeske bay the insurance wa $1600. any other suggestions. $6800 seemed high. but maybe not !

hogie roll 08-03-2022 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Mando (Post 4840373)
someone mentioned insurance. my boat is in cape coral. insurance was $6800 per year. when i had a similar nortech on chesepeske bay the insurance wa $1600. any other suggestions. $6800 seemed high. but maybe not !

it’s a combination of hurricane season and theft risk. since you live close to Cuba and boats like this get stolen to mule Cubans back to the US.

You agent may cut you a big discount if you move the boat away for hurricane season.

Also rates are going up in general because so many idiots hit the water in the last 2 years and were filing lots of claims.

Mando 08-03-2022 09:22 AM

insurance
 
yeah. i hear ya about the idiots. And I do have a hurricane plan. thanks for commenting

tlark 08-04-2022 01:43 PM

Use to be if your CC went over 70mph the insurance rates went up regardless of location, just filed Hurricane Plan and waiting for a quote with boat coming down from LOTO to spend from Oct to April on the gulf side. My boat will be in a CAT 4 building a couple miles off the coast, I would assume if your on a lift closer to where landfall in a H-cane would be it would be much more...........................$6800 is a chunk of change for boat ins, insane !!!

Mando 08-04-2022 01:48 PM

insurance.
 
it was a shock to me also. many quotes were way higher. i have it on a lift. on a canal. it's crazy.

hogie roll 08-04-2022 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by tlark (Post 4840523)
Use to be if your CC went over 70mph the insurance rates went up regardless of location, just filed Hurricane Plan and waiting for a quote with boat coming down from LOTO to spend from Oct to April on the gulf side. My boat will be in a CAT 4 building a couple miles off the coast, I would assume if your on a lift closer to where landfall in a H-cane would be it would be much more...........................$6800 is a chunk of change for boat ins, insane !!!

I used to move my boat back and forth as described and the insurance was cheap. Statefarm doesn’t write any new policies on boats over 28’ though.

All of my recent insurance inquiries were asking if the boat could go over 75mph.

Mando 08-04-2022 07:24 PM

insurance
 
if your boat goes over .70 i'm guessing you will be shocked. i'm saying 7k to 10k

Gary C 08-05-2022 05:26 AM

I'm thinking the cost of insurance has more to do with the cost of the boat. I had a 70mph Sonic that I insured for 350 a year. 25k boat vs a 500k or more boat.

SilverTT 08-05-2022 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by kornegle (Post 4840361)
what year are your 300R's? I have one that I purchased late in 2019 and the exhaust is not switchable on mine, and the manual never mentioned it was.

Ours are 2022s. I am pretty sure the V8 300R is an all new engine for 2021 or 2022 being first year. I recall the Mercury Racing press announcement from 2021. The base V8 300 is also a great motor just has less compression and I think gives up 5-600rpm at top end.

Mando 08-05-2022 11:11 AM

insurance
 
of course bost of boat !! same boat $1600 chesepeske bay. cape coral $6800. location location location. and no bahamas

Menage_Aqua 08-05-2022 12:35 PM

My agent told me that a lot of companies still classified CCs as "cruisers" and that was why the cost is still pretty reasonable on them.

Mando 08-05-2022 12:44 PM

insurance
 
not for me and i called at least a dozen. 34 nortech trip 400 in florida least price was 6800 per year

SilverTT 08-07-2022 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Mando (Post 4840339)
nice performance on the 300r. i ordered with 400s. then nortech said can't get them. said 300r. instead. then in rigging 400s came in. just got the boat beginning of april. 9 months late. lol. 400 are great also. not the power the 300r have. factory top end was 84.4. no seats 4 people limited fuel. i can get 81 had 6 people and little over half fuel plus all the junk. lol.

Btw Mando, what kind of mpg are you seeing at cruise? Curious how your 400s compare to 300R. I don't have a ton of hours but I seem to be getting 1.5 at anywhere 40-55mph. Less when punching it hard of course and a lot higher when decelerating naturally but that seems to be about my average.

Randy Vance from Boating mag quoted 1.7mpg at 45-50 for the NT340 w trip 400Rs. See pic below.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e3b103a61.jpeg

SilverTT 08-07-2022 10:17 AM

Either way still seems to be about the highest mpg of any boat I've ever seen at ~50-55mph which is where I try and run on long trips. Has anyone seen higher mpg?

Mando 08-07-2022 11:13 AM

mpg
 
low 1.4. high 1.5. at 55 miles per hour

Mentalpause 08-07-2022 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by SilverTT (Post 4840718)
Either way still seems to be about the highest mpg of any boat I've ever seen at ~50-55mph which is where I try and run on long trips. Has anyone seen higher mpg?

Not of any boat, albeit I ran at 45-50 for max MPG. I sold my 2014 34 NT this spring which was originally built with twin 300s for LOTO lake boating, so didn't need trips. It got 2MPG at around 40 MPH. In 2018 I re-rigged with twin 400Rs. Boat ran 70mph, rigged by Big Thunder marine with 22P Bravo 1s. Came on plane like a cannon with no bow rise at 2500-3000 rpm, unlike the 300s with revolutions props. Boat ran 70MPH top end. but cruised at 45-50 mph and sipped 1.9-2 mpg in that speed range. Really loved being right at 45-48 to maximize fuel burn. And the attitude of the boat, even in snot was drop dead perfect. Big Thunder rigged the engines one hole higher than NT rigged it with the 300s. And I ditched those revolution props in favor of the B1s. Like night and day different boat after the power up and re-rig. There is a threat in the NT section that talked about the re-rig.

​​​​​​https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...340-sport.html

hogie roll 08-09-2022 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by SilverTT (Post 4840718)
Either way still seems to be about the highest mpg of any boat I've ever seen at ~50-55mph which is where I try and run on long trips. Has anyone seen higher mpg?

Seems a bit high. Maybe on twins.

SilverTT 09-03-2022 08:41 AM

Now that we have about 50hrs driving our 2022 NT340 w Trip Racing 300R in all different conditions - glass flat to 6ft nasty pattern stuff coming around Montauk and Block Island - I would love to speak with someone who has had real seat time under a variety of conditions in both a 340 and 390.

Don't need any more speed, we usually don't run over 65mph but would love the ability to run 50-55mph in 2-3ft and the 340 can do it safely but I would not say totally comfortably.

Is that the sweet spot of the 390? Also ran to NYC yesterday next to a 222 Invincible 40ft cat w quad Verado 400R but it's such a serious fishing machine it seems you give up a ton of amenities like the pretty spacious and usable cabin, wrap around bow seating w forward facing built in backrests (huge for my use case) and NT has such an amazingly high end fit and finish I am not sure if others are same. Invincible probably yes but more industrial and less sport luxury it seems.

Anyway, if you guys have helm time in both 340 and 390 and or MTI 42 or Formula 380 SSC w trip 450Rs (anyone ever run that?) and have 10m for a quick call shoot me a pm. Thanks all.

SilverTT 09-03-2022 08:42 AM

Also, real quick one. On the 390 w cooler in tucked in / stores position, can you still open enough to grab a drink? Or do you have to pull it out even to crack it open enough to grab a can?

Mando 09-03-2022 08:50 AM

your 300r
 
what kinda top end do you get? does it cruise with the 300r at 55 mph what rpm's. i have a 2022 340with trip 400.

erik1976 09-03-2022 01:34 PM

I have 600 hours in a 34 and 200 in a 39. Pm me if you want to talk on the phone.

SilverTT 09-08-2022 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by erik1976 (Post 4843783)
I have 600 hours in a 34 and 200 in a 39. Pm me if you want to talk on the phone.

Thank you, sent PM

SilverTT 09-17-2022 09:38 AM

Anyone else with helm time in both a 340 and 390?


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