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FASTTIMES 06-06-2018 10:04 AM

Donzi GT 41
 
Interesting new model coming out from Donzi. Anyone know when the actual boat is scheduled to be out?

https://www.donzimarine.com/models/gt-series/

offshorexcursion 06-06-2018 10:30 AM

I like this, sorta like the Nor Tech Monte Carlo and Radio Flyer.

Outboard reliability, speed, luxury, and performance offshore styling without being a boring center console!

Sydwayz 06-06-2018 10:31 AM

There has been chatter about it for a while; a rebirth of the ZRC. But I have not seen any dates or progress other than a few renderings. RGIII posted something about it on FB some time back, but nothing further that I have seen.

I could be very interested in one in the future. I think with the new V8 outboards, there could be some really intriguing combos in the near future. Of course, one would love to have a pair of Seven-Marine motors back there; but their lowers will not stand up to the abuse of a lighter boat that will be leaving the water often.

Romeomikehotel 06-06-2018 11:06 AM

That thing is beautiful!

Crude Intentions 06-06-2018 12:14 PM

Pretty sure Ed said it will be sometime this summer the first one will be done.

Captain YARRR 06-06-2018 02:10 PM

The renderings are great...I'll avoid getting excited until we have something in the water to see.

Cash Bar 06-06-2018 03:13 PM

The first one is well underway. :noevil:

rak rua 06-06-2018 07:07 PM

I may be wrong but didn't someone post a couple of months ago saying it was likely to make an appearance at a poker run/show/event in early summer?

I like the idea they have it planned for simple power too. (2x350's) Suggests it should perform well without the cost of triples or Merc Racing outboards. Obviously not super quick but should still be decent.

RR

Edit: Hard to find but they say HP range 700/800/1050/1200. (Hence the twin 350's)




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Keith Atlanta 06-06-2018 08:19 PM

Finally, someone that put thought into a former go fast. I think its ridiculous when a manufacturer just clips outboards on the back of a former inboard boat and says "its storage" The Monte Carlo sorta pulled it off but the layout here with the Donzi is brilliant. Still has storage but also very usable too.

omerta one 06-07-2018 10:26 AM

Cool design; they need to get rid of that recessed bow rail though - had one on my 38ZR and all it did was puddle up with water and bugs...

LIQUID THUNDER 06-07-2018 10:57 AM

I too, love the new design of this DONZI.

Some people still like a nice sunpad to layout on, and of course that also makes some nice storage space, so it is a simple way to get reliable outboard power on a typical existing sport boat design.

The concern or question I have is the location of the far rear back seats being right next to the outboard motors. I am sure the Verado's are quiet, but the new 300R seems to be very loud, and 3 or 4 of them really loud. I know my twin 300xs motors are loud enough when I am driving, and I would not want to sit back there next to them even at 60mph. So having about 5' of space, vs sitting right next to them would seem nice. I have never ridden on a large multi engine center console boat. They have rear seats next to the motors, but when I pass them on the river, I don't recall ever seeing anyone sitting there, they are always up front, so why not use it for something else? Or just leave the area open with no seats?

Anyway, yes that DONZI is really cool looking, and should be a fresh idea vs. another CC boat.

Marginmn 06-07-2018 11:38 AM

Word is that unlike the ZRC that the boat is based on, this GT does not have a pad or a notched transom - so it'll be interesting to see how it runs with only 2 outboards. They were suppose to have it at the Lake Cumberland Thunder Run next week. If they do I'll climb all over it and get some pics.

MINK 06-07-2018 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4630706)
Word is that unlike the ZRC that the boat is based on, this GT does not have a pad or a notched transom - so it'll be interesting to see how it runs with only 2 outboards. They were suppose to have it at the Lake Cumberland Thunder Run next week. If they do I'll climb all over it and get some pics.

Hope its there, would love to see the design in person,

Tom A. 06-07-2018 01:11 PM

The overall look is beautiful but I have some concerns:
  • No pad or notch will definitely slow it down
  • 41' and twins = Slug
  • The seating layout allows for lounging but very little seating for actual running.
  • The DONZI & spear logo on the side (while looks cool at rest) will look terrible when the boat is on plane. They will be pointing down while the bow points up.

Sydwayz 06-07-2018 01:11 PM

I spent some more time looking at the renderings of the cockpit. I think if I was spec'ing one out, I'd ditch the consoles in the cockpit, and opt for another row of sit down seats. I'd give up room off of the rear facing lounger for such. Then you could safely sit 4 people for a poker run, and two more lounging facing forward. You could even make it a little more trick where the seat cushions would pop out of the forward section of the forward facing lounger, and make a seat out of that. Then you could have 6 people seated for a poker run. I always thought the 3 rows of seating was awesome in the PR boats from Baja, Formula, Advantage and the like.

(**Yes, I used the word "trick" when talking about a boat. :D)

Tom A. 06-07-2018 04:25 PM

Something I have been playing around with if I ever get my hands on one of the unfinished comps. (These are just quick and dirty drawings)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d187f03fd.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5c473e9206.jpg

glassdave 06-07-2018 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 4630755)
Something I have been playing around with if I ever get my hands on one of the unfinished comps. (These are just quick and dirty drawings)

There are unfinished Comps out there??

Tom A. 06-07-2018 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 4630755)
Something I have been playing around with if I ever get my hands on one of the unfinished comps. (These are just quick and dirty drawings)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d187f03fd.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5c473e9206.jpg


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4630761)
There are unfinished Comps out there??

I meant one of a couple that I know that are just sitting waiting to be rebuilt/converted. The owners just want too much for them as they are basically complete rerigs.

BONDO10 06-08-2018 06:08 AM

Tom, How much is too much ?
How bad are they ?
Thanks, Jeff

Tom A. 06-08-2018 08:46 AM

The one I know for sure is $100,000 for total basket case former race boat. Engines & drives need to be rebuilt. F2 side by side 500 boat . The other I haven't seen but was told it was similar.

MullenTJ86 06-08-2018 09:36 AM

Me personally, I'd give up the rear facing seats and throw in 2 staggered 860's and we'll have our ZR back, on steriods with that 9'8" beam! Can't wait to see one of these and read about the numbers they're putting down.

Marginmn 06-08-2018 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by MullenTJ86 (Post 4630887)
Me personally, I'd give up the rear facing seats and throw in 2 staggered 860's and we'll have our ZR back, on steriods with that 9'8" beam! Can't wait to see one of these and read about the numbers they're putting down.

Without a pad or notch, if that's true, I'm thinking mid-60's tops.

MullenTJ86 06-08-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4630895)
Without a pad or notch, if that's true, I'm thinking mid-60's tops.

As its currently setup with twin o/b's and 10' vhull beam...I agree, slug.

My suggestion of I/O's was mere fantasy, doesn't appear to be in the cards. I'll keep my fingers crossed, as long as the brand is alive.

Keith Atlanta 06-08-2018 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4630895)
Without a pad or notch, if that's true, I'm thinking mid-60's tops.

Yeah, but the outboards hanging off the back probably destroy what "was" perfect CG for what "was" a perfectly balanced boat. Hence, the notch is gone. The pad, well maybe that had to go too but doesnt make sense as far as efficiency goes. Interesting project none the less.

rak rua 06-09-2018 07:30 AM

Looking at the cockpit design, I don't think Donzi are trying for speed records. With the near 10' beam and no bolster seating, just loungers, I'd say they're aiming more at the aforementioned Nor-Tech boats than say the 100mph Outerlimits outboard.

My understanding of the notch design is to provide clean water to the props and also allow for higher x-dimensions. If the outboards are set back slightly like on a small bracket (hard to know from the images) then that would create a sort of 'notch effect'. The sharper Vee should help ride in rough conditions but maybe cost a couple of mph over a pad bottom.

Maybe they're targeting a more family style boater, practicality with outboards, and a cockpit designed for comfort. Perhaps all the talk about pricing and maintenance on high performance racing engines is making manufacturers think about the future direction of the market. How many times have people posted on here suggesting the high performance market is on life support? Will be very interesting to hear about the $$$ on this boat.......

Just my 2 cents but I love the look of the boat. I'd happily sacrifice 10-20 mph off the top end for that cockpit and the simplicity of outboards.

RR


Tractionless 06-16-2018 05:45 PM

Meh Outboards.

Xtremeracing 06-17-2018 08:15 PM

The ICONIC group is doing some very cool things. Looking forward to seeing this boat on the water. They are doing a great job with the new Fountain 32 cat, and 38 CC hopefully this will be another home run

Romeomikehotel 06-18-2018 11:14 AM

As the website states, they’re calling this one a Grand Touring boat which immediately shouts that comfort and luxury will take precedent over speed.
As was mentioned before this should be a great boat for folks willing to take the hit on top end speed for a semi-fast luxury cruiser. If I had the funds I’d be all over something like this.

Marginmn 06-18-2018 12:54 PM

Duplicate

Marginmn 06-18-2018 12:57 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6e522d8734.jpg
Well the Donzi GT was a no-show at the Cumberland Thunder Run. The only Donzi at the Iconic Marine display was this Illegally parked Comp who's passengers were seeking some shade from the brutal sun on Friday as they checked out the hardware :D

Marginmn 06-18-2018 01:12 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...eeb1ff3d33.jpg
So we represented!

ITLLFLI 06-19-2018 07:32 AM

Your comp looked and sounded great when I saw it on Saturday!👍 Saw a couple ZR's as well.

Marginmn 06-19-2018 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4632690)
Duplicate


Originally Posted by ITLLFLI (Post 4632853)
Your comp looked and sounded great when I saw it on Saturday!👍 Saw a couple ZR's as well.

Thanks - it was a lot of fun running in that washing machine chop.- it just eats it up :)

Tom A. 06-19-2018 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4632692)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6e522d8734.jpg
Well the Donzi GT was a no-show at the Cumberland Thunder Run. The only Donzi at the Iconic Marine display was this Illegally parked Comp who's passengers were seeking some shade from the brutal sun on Friday as they checked out the hardware :D

The best looking boat in the display - No Doubt!

Marginmn 01-25-2019 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4630706)
Word is that unlike the ZRC that the boat is based on, this GT does not have a pad or a notched transom - so it'll be interesting to see how it runs with only 2 outboards. They were suppose to have it at the Lake Cumberland Thunder Run next week. If they do I'll climb all over it and get some pics.

Well some real world numbers are in. Boating magazine did a review on the newest 41 GT and it did a Whopping 77 MPH with triple 400's and 1200 HP. I guess those guys in Sarasota knew what they were doing when they put a pad and notched transom on the original hulls. :popcorn:

-https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDonzi/videos/2131974263799571/-

Nate5.0 01-25-2019 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4669727)
Well some real world numbers are in. Boating magazine did a review on the newest 41 GT and it did a Whopping 77 MPH with triple 400's and 1200 HP. I guess those guys in Sarasota knew what they were doing when they put a pad and notched transom on the original hulls. :popcorn:

-https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDonzi/videos/2131974263799571/-

I also don't think the boat was ever built with the intention to set any speed records at all.

I helped tie up the one that ran in the in New years fun run, it was a beautiful boat, nice lines, and TONS! of room for people to enjoy. I can definitely see the appeal to that boat but yes it is prob not a traditional power boat owner that would look into it.

Marginmn 01-25-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4669729)
I also don't think the boat was ever built with the intention to set any speed records at all.

I helped tie up the one that ran in the in New years fun run, it was a beautiful boat, nice lines, and TONS! of room for people to enjoy. I can definitely see the appeal to that boat but yes it is prob not a traditional power boat owner that would look into it.

No one intentionally builds unnecessarily slow boats - unless you are an outside manufacture contracted to build the mold of a competitor. Age old lesson here. If you want it done right - build it yourself!

Nate5.0 01-25-2019 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4669734)
No one intentionally builds unnecessarily slow boats - unless you are an outside manufacture contracted to build the mold of a competitor. Age old lesson here. If you want it done right - build it yourself!

I feel the people at Icon marine have a good clue of their market and the drive on where the boat is to be sold/,marketed.


You can hate the boat all you want but it does not mean it doesn't have an audience and a buyer, it just isn't you.

Marginmn 01-25-2019 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Nate5.0 (Post 4669746)
I feel the people at Icon marine have a good clue of their market and the drive on where the boat is to be sold/,marketed.


You can hate the boat all you want but it does not mean it doesn't have an audience and a buyer, it just isn't you.

The mold was suppose to have a notched transom and a pad bottom - just like the ZRC. The competitor hired to produce the mold for them left those essential features off of the mold - dooming any boat produced from that mold to be a slug. It wasn't a marketing decision to target an audience who prefers slow and inefficient hulls. At best it was a misunderstanding between the people building the boat - who thought they were going to be getting the famous ZRC bottom to work with - and the company hired to produce a mold from an old ZRC. As predicted before they even built it - the boat is a slug. Trust me, no one at Iconic is happy about that.

MullenTJ86 01-25-2019 09:33 PM

I'd argue we (OSO) are one of the best sounding boards for boat manufacturers, we are previous/current clients of Donzi, who they would expect to be their future clients as well. Many of us on here who have taken an interest in this build have done so for that reason, we have brand loyalty and we buy Donzi's. No one is naive here, we know not every boat will be built to our liking. As a community, I think we all held out (or tried to) on a verdict until the boat finally made its debut. Of course, we all want the best for the brand, but as Marginmn said, the final product is not what was initially planned. Time will tell whether this one will be successful, as well as the 44Cat. For Donzi's sake, I hope they both are, so old builds return and new one's continue.


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